re: In WW2 we firebombed millions and then cluster bombed the rescuers

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But this is a comment one would expect from a mouth-breathing drug addicted 'protest-for-hire' reject.

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...why?

Have you also forgotten the WOT already?

Or, you know, the history of our involvement in Iran?

I don't think we have ever successfully relied on that strategy in the ME for the long-term.

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Interesting use of ebonics.

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It's an intentional reference to Jameis Winston, my good sir.

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Have you also forgotten the WOT already?

Or, you know, the history of our involvement in Iran?

I don't think we have ever successfully relied on that strategy in the ME for the long-term.

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sorry - not sorry - I can object to actions taken that I do not admire and still maintain the stance that self-survival is a god-given right for any sentient being to act on.

For instance - I can disagree with your opinions without harboring any thought of firebombing your home or raping/torturing your children.

BUT if we were to get into a debate over whether some action taken by our government that was abjectly evil - or sublimely magnamonus - I would not expect either of us to engage in WAR-like disastrous actions.

To dump the 'we started it' definition to this 'action' is just not an opinion I can muster any respect for - even in an academic 'debate' - because the actual actions being undertaken are so necessary - and so long delayed by criminally compromised US governmental non-action that this hideous imperative is demanded of us now.

I can see NO legitimate counter to the actions being taken now - regardless of the imperfections of past actions.

edit - later, we can judge how 'perfect' or 'imperfect' any particular action was, but in the heat of the moment, it would be a shame to expand upon.

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I can see NO legitimate counter to the actions being taken now - regardless of the imperfections of past actions.

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If this turns into another Iraq/Afghanistan, would you consider that to be a "legitimate counter" in hindsight?

Or, if we don't engage in regime change, a Libya. Same question (just a different result where we don't engage in "regime change" but leave a YUGE vacuum that creates all sorts of destabalization and negative externalities like ISIS).

When setting a bar for fire bombing a city of 10 million people, it needs to be hire than “they try and they threaten and they desire”. That’s functionally what your list boils down to.

I’m pissed at the IRGC for supplying IEDs in Afghanistan too… but if we’re taking the escalation ladder from IEDs to firebombings, we lose the moral high ground. That was a true horror of history, developed out of unparalleled desperation and necessity. We are not in a position of unparalleled desperation with Iran.

We don’t want to go backwards all cavalier just because we can.

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Truly there is little difference between the Nazis, Communist, Imperial Japanese, or the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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The threat level is exponentially different.

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This is a war for the fate of the world.

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There is no possible way you believe that. At least I hope not.

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For evil to triumph, good men must do nothing.

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There is a lot of territory between firebombing cities of millions and doing nothing. Surely you understand that.

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Pivoting to a football player or his word usage, interesting.

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It's called a joke

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IF you are discussing FAILED past activities - I am all in for that.

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The discussion is the likelihood that this follows suit of basically every other similar action post-1979, but, more specifically, the ones post 911

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You’re right about firebombing, but we were in a massive, two ocean war with existential stakes. I’m not sure a war by choice in Iran is a good comparison…

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LOL