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I'm not marksman, but I've done some shooting. A 125 yard head shot with a moving target
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:24 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:24 am
When you are under duress --- having been spotted and screamed at, knowing that you are about to die with certainty, and missing the target by an inch or two doesn't seem amateurish.
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Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:25 am to RiverCityTider
yeah it seemed like a damn near perfect shot
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:26 am to RiverCityTider
I agree. I don't know how well situated he was, either.
I'll also add 2 things about the roof:
1. It is slightly pitched, you need to account for this
2. The metal roof may have been hot. At least hotter than he expected.
I'll also add 2 things about the roof:
1. It is slightly pitched, you need to account for this
2. The metal roof may have been hot. At least hotter than he expected.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:26 am to RiverCityTider
The shooter definitely wasn’t trained at all, which reinforces the more likely explanation that he was just a pissed off incel who wanted to get famous
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:29 am to RiverCityTider
quote:I've shot running deer at 250 yards. A center mass (on a large man) is an easier target and just as lethal as a head shot. Right gun with the right cartridge is not that difficult at 200 much less 125.
I'm not marksman, but I've done some shooting. A 125 yard head shot with a moving target
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:33 am to RiverCityTider
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When you are under duress --- having been spotted and screamed at, knowing that you are about to die with certainty, and missing the target by an inch or two doesn't seem amateurish.
Yet the SS sniper was able to put his shot on target with all the above conditions. Trained shooters wouldn’t miss a 148 yard shot on a human target.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:34 am to lsufan1971
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Yet the SS sniper was able to put his shot on target with all the above conditions. Trained shooters wouldn’t miss a 148 yard shot on a human target.
Exactly!!
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:35 am to Diamondawg
quote:why do this?
I've shot running deer at 250 yards.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:35 am to RiverCityTider
He was spraying and praying I’ll bet he has less than 300 shots lifetime
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:35 am to RiverCityTider
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doesn't seem amateurish.
Taking a headshot at 125 yards with 556 is amateurish as frick
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:36 am to Timeoday
So a trained marksman couldn't miss if the target moved his head at the last second?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:37 am to Chicken
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why do this?
It’s not that hard. Rifles are usually capable of much more than the person handling them.
For someone who practices at that distance it’s not that difficult
ETA: I missed the running part. Not an ethical shot but can be done
This post was edited on 7/14/24 at 8:43 am
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:38 am to SelaTiger
Technically (and from a forensic perspective only)sic, It was well planned throughly carried out and successful, wildly successful in my opinion.
A.) assassin got a weapon and in a firing position and multiple shots off at the President of the United States at a static event. Not a rolling motorcade a fricking event!
B.) only by divine intervention President Trump is alive today.
I get it they didn’t have enough staff the SS to cover a perimeter that encompassed the barn in question and other details of law enforcement were to cover that. But Gosh darn it
The terrorist got within 125 yards with over 25 seconds to do its bidding.
This can’t happen. But it did.
A.) assassin got a weapon and in a firing position and multiple shots off at the President of the United States at a static event. Not a rolling motorcade a fricking event!
B.) only by divine intervention President Trump is alive today.
I get it they didn’t have enough staff the SS to cover a perimeter that encompassed the barn in question and other details of law enforcement were to cover that. But Gosh darn it
The terrorist got within 125 yards with over 25 seconds to do its bidding.
This can’t happen. But it did.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:39 am to RiverCityTider
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When you are under duress
The average person isn't aware of how much adrenaline affects your shot. My first time training for that and I was complete and utter arse. Probably still am. This is why I don't believe everyone carrying a gun is necessarily a good thing. Also, that woman struggling to holster her gun was completely amped up and training wasn't kicking in
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:39 am to Chicken
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I've shot running deer at 250 yards.
why do this?
Most hunters don't know their rifle or scope or ammo well enough to take a good shot. They just see target and shot.
Goes against the conservation ethos.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:40 am to JasonDBlaha
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The shooter definitely wasn’t trained at all, which reinforces the more likely explanation that he was just a pissed off incel who wanted to get famous
Yep, thought he was doing the world a favor when in fact he unknowingly did.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:41 am to Chicken
quote:Because it was a 9 pt with a 13 inch G2.
why do this?
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:41 am to jmarto1
Someone who has already accepted that they are on a suicide mission and considers themselves a martyr will not have the same adrenaline dump as someone reacting to the same situation
See the people who light themselves on fire for a cause
See the people who light themselves on fire for a cause
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:42 am to Diamondawg
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A center mass (on a large man) is an easier target and just as lethal as a head shot.
Yes - this was no trained assassin - UNLESS the short range gave the opportunity for a really "good" image of the hit.
Of course, with a center mass shot you have to consider Trump probably had some protective vest which may have been effective for saving life.
Posted on 7/14/24 at 8:42 am to RiverCityTider
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When you are under duress --- having been spotted and screamed at, knowing that you are about to die with certainty, and missing the target by an inch or two doesn't seem amateurish.
The shooter skills are not in question, what was completely amateurish was his plan. He setup on a roof where he should have been spotted by LEO before he go off a shot. Then to add to that, he should have been spotted before he was even able to climb up on the roof.
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