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re: I'm no longer a Liberal, Democrat, Progressive, whatever

Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:32 pm to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:32 pm to
Skin tone matters in 2018 or it doesn't. Make your choice.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154770 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:33 pm to
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I’m calling bull shite. 


No one gives a shite, commie.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38521 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:36 pm to
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kin tone matters in 2018 or it doesn't. Make your choice.
wut
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:40 pm to
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I disagree with your specific claim here. Perhaps we should mention that, in the 30s, 40s and 50s when black Americans were being so conventionally and laudably respectable for white folks to approve, their very own federal government was systematically excluding them from the housing market.


A practice that has since been abolished. Also, it's not about white folks' approval--it's about two parent households being a vital component of a demographic's socioeconomic survival. That applies to blacks, whites, everyone.

It's telling, though. The minute a black person says they're not (or no longer) a leftist, one of the first plays by leftists of all stripes (or racists in general in the case of the so-called "alt-right") is to assert that such convictions are only born of the desire to curry favor from white people.

That is racist on its face.

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when black folks were behaving just as you seem to think they should be - they still received brutal economic punishment in exchange.


This is not a factual statement. Blacks weren't "punished" for maintaining nuclear families. We were oppressed because the civil rights movement had yet to occur.

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that punishment has had way more far reaching effects.


Abysmal argument. I urge you to re-couch your rebuttal. The way you have chosen to couch it is not intellectually tenable.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 5:43 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10708 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:41 pm to
One of these days you are going to wake up and realize you wasted so much of your life focusing on the wrong things. Sad!
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19882 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 5:57 pm to
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That is racist on its face.


Yes, yes it is,

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This is not a factual statement. Blacks weren't "punished" for maintaining nuclear families. We were oppressed because the civil rights movement had yet to occur.


This guy needs to meet Dr. Sowell.

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Abysmal argument. I urge you to re-couch your rebuttal. The way you have chosen to couch it is not intellectually tenable.


Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154770 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:09 pm to
There is no what. You can't whine about skin tone shouldn't matter and then claim skin tone matters.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 6:10 pm
Posted by shadyshane1986
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2014
365 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:14 pm to
Welcome aboard brother! I always said thet a black man has more in commen with a white conservative than they think.. The democrat party takes blacks for granted.. Now they are trying to get all Hispanics vote.. They race bait and care more about illegals than you.. All conservative want is a strong county and put America first.. Never understood why blacks follow the democrats so much.. They have never cared about anyone but themselves.. I wish you could get other blacks to join you and join us.. We don’t care what race you are like the democrats say..
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16596 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:25 pm to
Instead of voting Republican, why not help build utopia by furthering a working class republic and building a socialist community?

Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
5035 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:36 pm to
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have always believed that the Democratic party is diametrically opposed to Black Americans... always has.

DEMOCRATS stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama to keep black students out, just as DEMOCRATS stand in the way of school vouchers for black students today.

DEMOCRATS want to Federally fund the organization started by the eugenicist Margaret Sanger to kill unborn black babies just as Democrats lynched black American's in the past.

DEMOCRATS have left black Americans to live in cesspools of crime and poverty - Chicago, New Orleans, Baltimore, Detroit... ALL DEMOCRAT run.

And now that the black voice has been weakened through these policies... they are moving on to Hispanics.

Evil sons-of-bitches. I'm glad you see the light. Help us save more.

Democrats created the minimum wage in order to make it so black people couldnt get jobs and would become extinct or move back home
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:53 pm to
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Big government and feminism has destroyed the black family. The government came to black women and said that if you kick the black man out of the house, we will give you all of the benefits you need.


Well this just isn't supported by facts at all. Single parent families were far more rare in black communities before they were pushed out of suburbs by racist politicians and beaten down by the war on drugs and over-policing.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Well this just isn't supported by facts at all.


Wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154770 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 7:29 pm to
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why not help build utopia 
look at this socialist prick
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92823 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 7:31 pm to
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Big Scrub TX


You know we disagree quite a bit but I’ve always respected what you have to say. With that said, your outlook needs to be revamped man. The 30s-50s were a million years ago and this country has freaking turned on its head in terms of integration. For fricks sake, one of your own was JUST President. Placing blame on others instead of focusing how to get ahead is detrimental to progress
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62155 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 7:37 pm to
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Big government and feminism has destroyed the black family.


The democratic party has destroyed the black family. It was intentional. They believed that they can own th black vote by doing so. And they have be n very right.

You are only half way there. Keep your eyes open and keep thinking.
This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 7:38 pm
Posted by burdhead
WOMP WOMP!!
Member since Apr 2017
6008 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 8:18 pm to
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Commandeaux

ole buddy, heres what i want you to do in your spare time....i was alive in the 60's and witnessed all of the turmoil with the civil rights movement.....i want you to look up the party affiliations of all of those that opposed your parents obtaining their God-given, unalienable rights....from the state parties, to the federals....

in the house and senate, demo-rats voted for passage at a 23% rate....republicans?....republicans voted 100% for passage!...thats right, look it up, its public record and history....oh, by the way, look at what LBJ said he would do about having ya'll vote demo-rat"for 200 years"....Ole abe lincoln was a demo-rat, right?...ole abe, with his emancipation proclamation, demo-rat right?...nope, he was a republican....i am no republican, i am a conservative...i hate the leftists party and am disgusted by the uniparty fake conservatives....if a conservative demo-rat still existed, i would support him/her over a fake conservative neocon in a heartbeat...do some research for real history and facts....ya' arse gonna' be pissed
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19882 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:30 pm to
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Well this just isn't supported by facts at all. Single parent families were far more rare in black communities before they were pushed out of suburbs by racist politicians and beaten down by the war on drugs and over-policing.










This post was edited on 6/23/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:37 pm to
I don’t think I have ever seen this many upvotes ona post. Well deserved.
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 9:56 pm to
Great post. You’ve clearly put a lot of thought into this and thanks for sharing them with us. One question - regarding single black mothers, I guess I always figured they had sex out of wedlock, many of them got pregnant as a consequence and the fathers were simply irresponsibly absent. But are you saying there is a significant number of black women who actually try to get pregnant with no intention of the biological father sticking around?

If so, wow. I guess I never realized it was quite that blatant. There should be a very easy policy fix for that. Why haven’t Democrats done something about it if they aren’t trying to exploit it?

I think that final question answers itself.
This post was edited on 6/24/18 at 9:15 am
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
89354 posts
Posted on 6/23/18 at 10:10 pm to
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look at what LBJ said he would do about having ya'll vote demo-rat"for 200 years".


YEP! been sayin

also post LBJ great society is when black families went down hill especially with single mother families. it killed drive and work ethic by many. so now we will stay in the hood, get social services and sell drugs on the side instead of using all the minority programs available and doing something in athletics or academics to succeed like some do.
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