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I'm hearing bad news on Biden's regulations affecting A/C systems
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:29 am
My A/C man told me that there will be no more SEER 14 units available at the end of the year.
The issue is that if your current system's condensor goes out but you have a good internal air handler you will have to replace both because your perfectly good air handler will not be compatible with the 16 SEER condensor.
This means twice or 3 times the price to replace everything where in the past only a condensor swap would do.
If you think your condensor is on it's last legs, you might want to deal with it sooner rather than later.
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Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:30 am to TrueTiger
Add it to the list of things Obama and Biden fricked up.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:33 am to TrueTiger
Anything built before 2010 still using R22 will be obsolete soon anyway and R22 is getting harder to find and way more expensive.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:38 am to stout
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Anything built before 2010 still using R22 will be obsolete soon anyway and R22 is getting harder to find and way more expensive.
410A is outrageous.
The replacement for 410A is being replaced with a flammable.
Muh green scam.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:40 am to TrueTiger
I have a big home with a really old fan thingy outside but the system in the basement is still pretty new.
Should I get a new fan thingy that goes outside and just store it in the basement until I need it?
Should I get a new fan thingy that goes outside and just store it in the basement until I need it?
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:40 am to LSUbest
Wait explain the flammable part to me like im 5. I havent heard that.
What the hell are they using that flammable?
What the hell are they using that flammable?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:46 am to TrueTiger
Had my AC replaced in Feb. No 14 SEER units available then.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:50 am to TrueTiger
Does this make mini-splits a choice that can make sense?
Has anyone planned a block of this?
Has anyone planned a block of this?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:57 am to stout
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Anything built before 2010 still using R22 will be obsolete soon anyway and R22 is getting harder to find and way more expensive.
R22 is/was a great refrigerant. The govt in their infinite wisdom decide R22 wasn’t environmentally friendly enough so 410 became the standard. 22 is outrageously expensive like you said and damn near impossible to find. A lot of what I can find is reclaimed R22 out of old units. Some manufacturers got around the 410 A requirement by selling “dry” units that weren’t factory charged from the dealer so you could swap a condenser and then get it charged with 22. Now you can’t find 22 so that doesn’t work anymore. The efficiency shite is a scam in my opinion because 410a isn’t as good as R22 and your unit actually has to run longer.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 10:57 am to TrueTiger
Poor people need air conditioning too! The LeftLibs think they are helping the environment, in reality, they are financially destroying the low and middle classes.
Treehugger economics DO NOT WORK! It will destroy the country, just watch the electric vehicle race....
Treehugger economics DO NOT WORK! It will destroy the country, just watch the electric vehicle race....
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:03 am to LSUnation78
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Wait explain the flammable part to me like im 5. I havent heard that.
It will catch on fire. youtube
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What the hell are they using that flammable?
Muh green scam.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:06 am to JJJimmyJimJames
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Does this make mini-splits a choice that can make sense?
Yes, especially for DIY installation.
I don't like the pumping out of the condensate myself, but that's just me.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:29 am to TrueTiger
Damnit. I still haven’t gotten over them fricking up the light bulb selections. Now this….
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:36 am to Big Jim Slade
Everything the Biden/Barack regime touches turns to shite! Thanks globohomo Larry Fink 
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:39 am to LSUnation78
Refrigerant grade Propane. R290 is being used in commercial refrigeration like reach in coolers.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:41 am to RBTiger
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Everything the Biden/Barack regime touches turns to shite! Thanks globohomo Larry Fink
Turns to "Gold" for politicians.
How much would Biden and Obama be worth if they had never been in politics?
Posted on 5/7/22 at 11:42 am to TrueTiger
I just had a new system put in a couple of months ago. it was a 14 seer I think. My AC guy recommended it. He said in my small house I wouldn't really gain much by going with a higher seer unit. It has a 10 year warranty I wonder how that would effect it if it went out. I would guess if parts aren't available they would upgrade to the replacement.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:11 pm to LSUbest
Mini Splits are here to stay and will be the future.
Another problem with the 16 seer and above is many of them are communicating systems with fancy circuit boards that can easily get damaged in a 150 degree attic space. Costly to fix.
R-22 was great because running pressures were much lower than 410-a thus easier on the equipment which in turn made it last longer.
Another problem with the 16 seer and above is many of them are communicating systems with fancy circuit boards that can easily get damaged in a 150 degree attic space. Costly to fix.
R-22 was great because running pressures were much lower than 410-a thus easier on the equipment which in turn made it last longer.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:12 pm to LSUbest
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I don't like the pumping out of the condensate myself,
Install on an exterior wall and you don't have to.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:14 pm to tiger1616
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selling “dry” units that weren’t factory charged from the dealer so you could swap a condenser and then get it charged with 22.
I think this may be what I have at a house I bought recently.
The unit is supposed to have the new stuff, but when the AC Inspector checked it, the pressures were different than what he expected and he said that it was because there was R22 in the system.
Don't know if that is accurate or not
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 12:15 pm
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