re: I'm Curious. How Many Here Think Lee Harvey Oswald Acted Alone in the JFK Assassination?

I think the CIA, in concert with the Mossad, took him out. It was well known that Kennedy had deep concerns about Israel’s nuclear weapons program and wanted American inspections.

Mafia took him out because he was disrupting gambling operations in Cuba. Big $$$$

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IMO, the mafia took out JFK....now who shot him?.....we will never know.

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Yep.

The mob made Joe Kennedy through bootlegging during prohibition. Then the mob got JFK elected through "voter outreach" by mob leaders like Sam Giancana, Carlos Marcello, and Santo Trafficante. Then Bobby Kennedy went after the mob big time.

Understandably the mob was not okay with this. JFK and Giancana, the Chicago boss, even shared a girlfriend for a while. Within a number of years, they were all dead. JFK, RFK, Giancana...

Meanwhile Oswald was a known visitor to Marcello's office.

Way too much coincidence. Oswald didn't just wake up one day and plant then carry out the murder of the leader of the free world.

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Crazy how he knew exactly when Oswald was being transferred

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This is actually the biggest fact against him knowing exactly when Oswald was going to be transferred.

Ruby's steps have all been traced on the day of the shooting.

Sometime between 10:00-11:00 (the exact time doesn't matter for this one, as you'll see) Ruby was listening to the news coverage about the assassination on the radio and decided to go downtown.

But he wasn't in any particular hurry. He decided to stop by the Western Union office since it was just up the block from where Oswald was being held to wire money to one of his dancers. He had to stand in a short line there. At exactly 11:17 (it was time stamped) he completed the transfer.

He arrived on foot at the Police Headquarters at 11:20, and he simply walked down the car ramp int the basement. There had been a guard at the ramp, but he moved to help with traffic...Ruby didn't "slip through" some tight security, he went in where there was no security. And the guard on that ramp wasn't ordered off of it...he stepped away only momentarily on his own volition to help a single police car merge into traffic.

Now here's the thing...the shooting took place at 11:21. Ruby arrived literally just seconds before Oswald was brought out. Probably not even a full minute.

If even one more customer had been in line at the Western Union, Ruby would have missed him entirely.

If the guard hadn't left the ramp post exactly when Ruby got there, he probably wouldn't have been allowed to go down the ramp into the basement. Even if Ruby had been able to talk him into it, it still would have taken some extra seconds and Ruby would have missed Oswald coming out.

Given the timeline, the inference to the best explanation is not that Ruby knew where he'd be and when. That doesn't make sense at all having retraced Ruby's steps, especially the stop at the Western Union office.

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I think the CIA, in concert with the Mossad, took him out. It was well known that Kennedy had deep concerns about Israel’s nuclear weapons program and wanted American inspections.

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Well, the US did inspect Israel's main reactor facilities, in 1961 and 1962. That didn't resolve the tension you pointed out, but for clarity/accuracy's sake, the inspections did happen.

The thing is—and this is something that the fans of Candace Owens and Huckster Carlsons and the like (not saying you are one of those) don't seem to be able to grasp is that motive is not enough to come to a conclusion.

Sure, maybe Israel had a motive, and the CIA did too.

So did the Mafia.

So did Fidel Castro.

So did LBJ.

So did the Soviet Union.

So did France (they helped Israel build the nuclear facility that caused the tension you posted about).

So did the South Vietnamese who felt like JFK wasn't supporting them.

So did various states in Latin America who were pawns in the proxy Cold War between the US and the U.S.S.R.

It's like when Candace Owens tries to make it look like Erica Kirk had Charlie killed because she stood to benefit from it. Probably a half dozen people stood to benefit from it, not least of which is Candace herself.

Motive just does not equal proof, or even enough evidence to personally draw a conclusion IMO. It's just not enough.

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There have been mob guys (dead now) who said on record that it was a joint CIA/Mob effort.

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Not exactly.

Not that I could find, anyway (although I am fine standing corrected if you have a link that says otherwise).

There were a few mob guys who were talked about on record by other people having made those claims, but everything I could find was second or third hand and some of it was decades after the fact.

The closest thing I found to a mob guy going on record that the mob and the CIA teamed up to kill JFK was a guy named Johnny Roselli, who testified before the Senate Church Committee in 1975. He implied (not stated) that organized crime was willing to cooperate with the CIA in plots against political targets in the context of the US's attempts to assassinate Fidel Castro.

He never said anything specifically about Kennedy.

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There have been mob guys (dead now) who said on record that it was a joint CIA/Mob effort.


Not exactly.

Not that I could find, anyway (although I am fine standing corrected if you have a link that says otherwise).

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James Earl Fines openly claims (frankly with some credibility) to have been the grassy knoll shooter in concert with a mob-CIA operation. Charles Nicoletti and John Roselli were the lead shooting team, situated in the Dal-Tex building. He says Oswald was involved, but probably not as a shooter.

Fines claims his was a back up role, in case Nicoletti missed. He says Kennedy's head moved forward just as he fired, which he assumed to be Nicoletti's final shot hitting Kennedy a fraction of a second before his did.

He says he used a 221 Remington Fireball Pistol with a scope. It is an interesting interview if you've not seen it before. (E.g., He claims Oswald helped him calibrate scopes and gathered spent shell casings prior to Nov 22nd. When Oswald was paraffin tested, only his palms tested positive for GP residue. That is compatible with handling spent casings, not firing a gun. Yet, the official account holds that LHO fired multiple rifle and pistol shots that day.)

To add to this, the reason Ruby left his apartment was because one of his stripper girls called him and asked him for some money.

Saw a pretty compelling theory that Oswald missed and a newbie secret service agent who was assigned to the vehicle because the more experienced ones went out drinking the night before whipped around to return fire and shot Kennedy in the head on accident. The secrecy and coverup around the whole thing was because of how nationally embarrassing it would be.

Personally I haven't studied the event enough to have a concrete belief myself that I 100% buy.

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I thought it was weird that Ruby would shoot him in the stomach instead of in the head or heart. no blood on the floor. oswald KO'd unconscious from a stomach shot instead of rolling around in pain and quickly ushered out in an ambulance. very odd stuff brothers

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True. That lines up with an impulsive decision rather than a well planned decision.