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re: I’m a medical provider:Why we should be concerned about COVID-19
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
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I’m a healthcare provider (PA)
Ok. What do the real doctors think?
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Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
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The flu has a mortality rate of about 0.1% vs coronavirus 2-3.4% (CDC and WHO).
That estimate has been revised to 1%.
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-if you extrapolate that number for increases deaths for coronavirus for lower to higher death rate estimates: 1.2 million(2%mortality rate) to 2.07 million deaths (3.4% mortality rate)
You utter and complete moron. COVID-19 is deadly for the elderly and immunocompromised, whereas the flu is impactful over a much wider age range. If you are a PA and this bad at math then you are a liability to whomever you work for.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
Main reason people are downplaying it is we're still getting up and going to work every day like we always have.
We also understand that the event cancellations are an overreaction, but the intention is to keep large events from vectoring the virus over a large area. That buys time to get ahead of it.
The mortality rate us likely to be exaggerated - people with mild symptoms are less likely to be tested, so the denominator is lower than it should be.
We also understand that the event cancellations are an overreaction, but the intention is to keep large events from vectoring the virus over a large area. That buys time to get ahead of it.
The mortality rate us likely to be exaggerated - people with mild symptoms are less likely to be tested, so the denominator is lower than it should be.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to TigerTattle
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Right, so all these people who have mild symptoms and don't get tested, and therefore aren't included in the infection count for COVID-19 ... what does that do to your mortality rate?
Shhhhhh
He's on a stupid roll
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
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Id like to see Italy put out its official numbers, they are the most heavily impacted right now
And if you were truly in tune with all the bs you posted, you would know that 25% of Italy’s population is elderly, which is why the death rate is so high there. So their numbers aren’t going to show much.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
So we need to go clear out the groceries and then get our ammo ready since it will turn post apocalyptic soon right? I mean if it get bad enough where we have to stock up food, that mean they will cut off the food supply chain, so we'd have to rob one another to survive at that point.
Right?
Right?
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:00 pm to phonyscandals
I was also in the ER at Kennestone Hospital in Marietta GA about three weeks ago and asked the doctor if he was concerned about Corona.
He laughed and said no.
He laughed and said no.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:01 pm to phonyscandals
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d like to see Italy put out its official numbers, they are the most heavily impacted right now
When we test more people the fatality rate will drop tremendously.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:01 pm to phonyscandals
The naivety of this board is astounding.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:01 pm to phonyscandals
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Id like to see Italy put out its official numbers, they are the most heavily impacted right now
Me too because it will be an indictment against socialized medicine and idiot politicians that ran around claiming “xenophobia” while hugging Chinese people instead of standing up task forces and implementing travel bans
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:03 pm to phonyscandals
One other thing to add
I do t think we know the true mortality rate yet as it is difficult to get tested.
So we only know the number of deaths per those who have actually tested positive.
In theory at least there could be millions more infected with only mild symptoms who won’t die.
I’m saying those numbers are definitely wrong, but I would take them with a huge grain of salt.
Until this has been around a bit longer and testing becomes easier, we won’t know the true mortar rate.
I do t think we know the true mortality rate yet as it is difficult to get tested.
So we only know the number of deaths per those who have actually tested positive.
In theory at least there could be millions more infected with only mild symptoms who won’t die.
I’m saying those numbers are definitely wrong, but I would take them with a huge grain of salt.
Until this has been around a bit longer and testing becomes easier, we won’t know the true mortar rate.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:03 pm to KingOrange
Is this the same experts that said we would have an ice age 40 years ago or global warming would flood all low lying areas 20 years ago.
What about the experts that said Trump colluded with Russia or Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Y2K ring a bell, cmon man grow a pair. Some will die but people die everyday from accidents, diseases, everyday.
What about the experts that said Trump colluded with Russia or Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
Y2K ring a bell, cmon man grow a pair. Some will die but people die everyday from accidents, diseases, everyday.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:06 pm to memphis tiger
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I’m saying those numbers are definitely wrong, but I would take them with a huge grain of salt.
Again, as I keep trying to tell people
It isn't that their numbers are wrong. It's that they aren't measuring what these idiots think they're measuring.
It's useful to know the rate at which people die when they are sick enough to seek attention. It's just not the same stat as the rate at which people die if they get the disease at all.
And on that front, these numbers are DEFINITELY not that. In fact, it's IMPOSSIBLE that they be that.
Because ANY disease EVER that doesn't cause everyone it affects to need medical attention, have a number of people who aren't in the denominator at the front end of the outbreak.
This isn't some theory. It's literally the ONLY thing possible.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:07 pm to Ancient Astronaut
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The naivety of this board is astounding.
Yes... yes it is, lets look at real numbers that include widespread testing of those that are asymptomatic
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As of Thursday, 66 out of 7,869, or 0.84%, South Korean patients confirmed to have the coronavirus have died. Meanwhile, as of Thursday in the US, 38 out of 1,358 confirmed cases have resulted in death, a 2.8% death rate
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:07 pm to TigerTattle
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coronavirus 2-3.4% (
quote: so most people who get sick wont even get tested or often can have mild symptoms
Right, so all these people who have mild symptoms and don't get tested, and therefore aren't included in the infection count for COVID-19 ... what does that do to your mortality rate?
This
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:08 pm to phonyscandals
quote:Basd on what?
coronavirus 2-3.4% (CDC and WHO). That mean the coronavirus is 20-34X deadlier than the flu.
There is no reliable data coming out of China, and there is no finding that the nursing home deaths in Washington were caused by COVID-19.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:08 pm to Lsut81
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As of Thursday, 66 out of 7,869, or 0.84%, South Korean patients confirmed to have the coronavirus have died. Meanwhile, as of Thursday in the US, 38 out of 1,358 confirmed cases have resulted in death, a 2.8% death rate
It's almost like if you don't have the correct denominator, you get bad math!
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:08 pm to phonyscandals
When looking at these rates you must consider you may comparing apples to oranges
With influenza we have deaths that we can compare with patients who have been proven via test to be exposed.
With Covid, if you compare the deaths to known cases (tested), the numbers may be skewed as the denominator may be in actuality much larger than we realize (minimally symptomatic and untested folks). Hence the mortality rate looks “worse”
With influenza we have deaths that we can compare with patients who have been proven via test to be exposed.
With Covid, if you compare the deaths to known cases (tested), the numbers may be skewed as the denominator may be in actuality much larger than we realize (minimally symptomatic and untested folks). Hence the mortality rate looks “worse”
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:09 pm to ShortyRob
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This isn't some theory. It's literally the ONLY thing possible.
I love people who argue against truisms. Our buddy the other day was the best.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 10:10 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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there is no finding that the nursing home deaths in Washington were caused by COVID-19.
13 were tested, correct?
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