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re: I'll never understand how the black population can support Democrats
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:09 pm to back9Tiger
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:09 pm to back9Tiger
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At some point in history, democrats where able to flip the narrative.
Civil Rights Act of 1964 and Voting Act of 1965 pushed by LBJ
The division was north / south rather than along party lines.
Southern democrats strongly opposed the legislation, the National Democratic party said this is who we are now. As a result southern democrats left the party and republicans welcomed them with open arms.
Politicians like Strom Thurmond left the Democrats in 1964 outraged by civil rights. He led a group of democrats over to Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and the the Neo-Cons who were being formed that era. Over the next few years several southern democrats would make the conversion notably Ronnie Thompson, Jessie Helms, and almost all judges and politicians from Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, and Georgia who had supported segregationist legislation. Other segregationists like Gov. Wallace turned independent.
Democrats kicked out the Jim Crow segregationists and the southern "slave states" have been largely red ever since. The move came at a cost to Democrats who had enjoyed a large political majority. The Republicans had a new stronghold in the southern states. Combined with the evangelicals, they would peak in the Reagan 80s. Trump Republicans have purged the neo-cons and globalists (RINOS) and now are dominated by the offspring of the pro-segregationists who run on the anti-immigration and anti-female rights ticket.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:10 pm to partsman103
Don’t forget the abortions. Theyve advocated for and murdered millions of black babies.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:10 pm to partsman103
Because Democrats have put so much effort into the party switch lie that they actually believe it
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:10 pm to partsman103
Ive said it before and i believe it. Blacks dont vote for democrats at the percentage we are told. Most blacks dont even vote. So their vote is stolen and goes to democrats. Same as dead people and illegals from now on. All 3 will vote at 90% democrats because their votes are stolen.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:11 pm to lake chuck fan
quote:black males seem to be a bit more accepting of Republican ideas but black women will always vote 99% Democrat
It seems like more black folks are paying attention and changing their minds. Some only understand the freebies come from the Dems. Others only know what they've been taught.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:13 pm to crimsonuatide
How about they leave? Nobody is keeping them here. Systemic racism is just another excuse.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:15 pm to BugAC
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You're not bright, but i'm showing you what happens when someone eats up the propaganda like you have.
Tell me, you believe the parties "switched" in 1964 right? Do you know who voted AGAINST the bill of rights?
Hint:
Al Gore Sr.
Robert Byrd - Clinton (both Clintons) and Biden's mentor
William Fulbright - Clinton's Mentor
Explain the south's flip in electoral votes from 1960 to 1964 then?
1960
1964
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:17 pm to Ostrich
Fulbright also went on to sign the Southern Manifesto
Johnson (as a senator) voted against anti-lynching laws
The solid south voting pattern in the democrat party began to break NOT in the 1960s, but in the 1950s in response to economic development in the cold war.
The republican gains in the house came not from opposition to the Civil rights act, but to Eisenhower.
If Southern white republicans were racist, then one could expect that Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia would have been the first states to turn Republican. When in fact it was Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Florida that began voting Republican.
Johnson (as a senator) voted against anti-lynching laws
The solid south voting pattern in the democrat party began to break NOT in the 1960s, but in the 1950s in response to economic development in the cold war.
The republican gains in the house came not from opposition to the Civil rights act, but to Eisenhower.
If Southern white republicans were racist, then one could expect that Mississippi, Alabama, and Georgia would have been the first states to turn Republican. When in fact it was Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Florida that began voting Republican.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:17 pm to Ostrich
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Explain the south's flip in electoral votes from 1960 to 1964 then?
I just did, see above.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:19 pm to Mushroom1968
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The parties flipped after all that.
bullshite.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:20 pm to Leto II
The claim is the parties flipped. Please provide evidence they did. I'll wait.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:20 pm to partsman103
Born and raised, any white man with power is hated. Including those protecting the public.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:22 pm to partsman103
They’re afraid to let go of the victim mentality that democrats dwell into their heads.
If they vote Republican then they have to admit that they aren’t held down by whites and the scars of slavery. They have to admit That they can indeed succeed despite the hardships of life. Admit That they don’t need the government to assist them. And that That they’re not crippled by the injustices imposed on blacks 300 years ago!
It’s tough to be free
If they vote Republican then they have to admit that they aren’t held down by whites and the scars of slavery. They have to admit That they can indeed succeed despite the hardships of life. Admit That they don’t need the government to assist them. And that That they’re not crippled by the injustices imposed on blacks 300 years ago!
It’s tough to be free
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:23 pm to partsman103
Majority of blacks are in the South. They do what the Church Preacher tells them to do.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:23 pm to Ostrich
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Ostrich
Also from your link
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Johnson had successfully associated himself with Kennedy's popularity. Johnson also successfully painted his opponent, Republican Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona, as a right-wing legislator who wanted to abolish the social welfare programs created in the 1930s (such as Social Security).
And a little about Goldwater.
- He was a founding member of the AZ chapter of the NAACP
- He hired many blacks in his family business
- He pushed to desegregate the AZ national guard
So why don't you explain to me Gore, Byrd, Fulbright, and the people that looked up to them and how there was a switch somehow.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:24 pm to partsman103
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after knowing Democrats were in favor of slavery, creators of the KKK, opposed civil rights, were all about segregation and against all things "none-white"
They don't know any of this, nor do they care.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:26 pm to Ostrich
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Ostrich
AND..... the ONLY dixiecrat to ever become a republican was Strom Thurmond.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:28 pm to Ostrich
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Explain the south's flip in electoral votes from 1960 to 1964 then?
While you don’t have to explain why the blue wall states in New England like Massachusetts, deleware, Rhode Island, and Connecticut along with Minnesota didn’t flip?
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:29 pm to Ostrich
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Ostrich
More facts for you that prove you believe propaganda:
LINK
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n June of 1964, though, the bill came up again, and it passed...over the strenuous objections of Southern Democrats. 80% of House Republicans voted for the measure, compared with just 61% of Democrats, while 82% of Republicans in the Senate supported it, compared with 69% of Democrats.
Nearly all of the opposition was, naturally, in the South, which was still nearly unanimously Democratic and nearly unanimously resistant to the changing country. One thing that most assuredly didn't change, though, was party affiliation. A total of 21 Democrats in the Senate opposed the Civil Rights Act. Only one of them, "Dixiecrat" Strom Thurmond, ever became a Republican. The rest, including Al Gore, Sr. and Robert Byrd--a former Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan--remained Democrats until the day they died.
Moreover, as those 20 lifelong Democrats retired, their Senate seats remained in Democrat hands for several decades afterwards. So too did the overwhelming majority of the House seats in the South until 1994, when a Republican wave election swept the GOP into control of the House for the first time since 1952. 1994 was also the first time Republicans ever held a majority of House seats in the South--a full 30 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act.
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After the 1964 election--the first after the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the opportune time for racist Democrat voters to abandon the party in favor of Republicans--Democrats still held a 102-20 House majority in states that had once been part of the Confederacy. In 1960, remember, that advantage was 117-8. A pickup of 12 seats (half of them in Alabama) is hardly the massive shift one would expect if racist voters suddenly abandoned the Democratic Party in favor of the GOP.
In fact, voting patterns in the South didn't really change all that much after the Civil Rights era. Democrats still dominated Senate, House, and gubernatorial elections for decades afterward. Alabama, for example, didn't elect a Republican governor until 1986. Mississippi didn't elect one until 1991. Georgia didn't elect one until 2002.
In the Senate, Republicans picked up four southern Senate seats in the 1960s and 1970s, while Democrats also picked up four. Democratic incumbents won routinely. If anything, those racist southern voters kept voting Democrat.
Feel free to factcheck. You know it's right.
This post was edited on 8/27/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 8/27/24 at 1:29 pm to partsman103
That's something I can't understand either. I mean, the majority of blacks were in favor of changing names of streets, buildiings, and military posts to erase any sign of the old confederacy because it pained them so.
They even cancelled careers because of past tweets, etc. and looked down upon folks for any ties they may have had currently or in the past to any known racists or organizations.
But they hold no ill-will toward Joe Biden when he is shown on camera speaking of how he doesn't want his children to be in the Jungle in regard to intergration at schools, etc. He was real good friends with a known KKK grand duke, but he is given a pass. The Democratic party is the party that evolved from the KKK and still the blacks love being in it.
I just don't get it!
They even cancelled careers because of past tweets, etc. and looked down upon folks for any ties they may have had currently or in the past to any known racists or organizations.
But they hold no ill-will toward Joe Biden when he is shown on camera speaking of how he doesn't want his children to be in the Jungle in regard to intergration at schools, etc. He was real good friends with a known KKK grand duke, but he is given a pass. The Democratic party is the party that evolved from the KKK and still the blacks love being in it.
I just don't get it!
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