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re: If we can't fix our corrupt elections ...

Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:16 pm to
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then we need to fully investigate this election and it's winner, correct?


The “winner” doesn’t need to be investigated, genius. The elections do, however. I fully support a complete audit of every election in the United States. Start with the most populous cities first. Agreed?
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 1:17 pm
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:17 pm to
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I really try not to engage with idiots, but sometimes it’s difficult but in your case I’ve made an exception.

not sure why you resort to insults when discussing something with other, but i guess you are "that guy"... do you, but i'm not the one that looks like i'm losing the discussion, as i'm not the one resorting to insults, which is a pretty clear indicator that you are not, in fact, "winning"

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But I’m done

you were done way before this post, but you do you, chief...
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:21 pm to
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The “winner” doesn’t need to be investigated, genius.

why not? you don't think they had a part to play in it?

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The elections do, however. I fully support a complete audit of every election in the United States.

so, if there was an investigation and it turned up that there was more corruption on the Republican side vs. the Democrat side, would you own that? would you be critical of your party, or would it just be swept aside as if it didn't actually happen?

and look, both sides cheat... both sides do some frickery at election time... it happens in every single election... but not the degree and scale, by EITHER SIDE, that is being alleged... the "corruption" doesn't rise to the point where the entire outcome is affected... there has been ZERO proof of that level of "corruption" in our elections... 6 years going, and still no evidence that indicates the scale that the fear mongerers are portraying...
Posted by chRxis
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:22 pm to
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One could argue that security was heightened in 2024 because the controversy about 2020 was still so fresh, but that it would relax over time as that controversy got smaller in the rearview and people forgot about it.


so, they fixed it then, but they will be lax now? remind me again, which party is currently responsible DURING the elections? who's watch would it be under?
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11178 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:24 pm to
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was 2016 and 2024 corrupt too? or just that one singular 2020 election?


Or maybe Trump actually won by so much they couldn't cheat their way to victory?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:29 pm to
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maybe Trump actually won by so much they couldn't cheat their way to victory?

maybe... but it's interesting that no one wanted to look into those elections, at all... i mean if we are going to go after voter fraud, like they are doing in 2020, let's do 2022, 2024, 2026 too... don't half arse it b/c you won those... frick that... put it ALL out there...

what's good for the goose, is good for the gander...

frick both of these parties... i hope they both burn to the fricking ground, personally
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58152 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 1:29 pm to
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why not? you don't think they had a part to play in it?


If the investigation to the election leads there, then of course. But you don’t start an investigation assuming 1 person is the culprit without proof. Let the evidence lead to where it may.

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so, if there was an investigation and it turned up that there was more corruption on the Republican side vs. the Democrat side, would you own that? would you be critical of your party, or would it just be swept aside as if it didn't actually happen?


Of course. Why else would I say 2024 needs to be investigated too. I am confident, however, that the left has way more to lose with election fraud than the right, and you know that too.
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the "corruption" doesn't rise to the point where the entire outcome is affected... there has been ZERO proof of that level of "corruption" in our elections..


You can’t say this honestly, though. Do you really expect a Democrat run city to investigate itself for election frickery? You think California is going to investigate itself? Do you think the city of LA is going to look into the mayoral frickery? Ignore everything else I posted and just answer that. I don’t know why you people love to pretend that we should just rely on the honor system in regards to elections. Maybe it’s your compassion towards criminals or your disdain for US law. But yes, you won’t get “evidence of fraud” if those who benefit from fraud don’t investigate it. And why would they?
Posted by RemyLeBeau
Member since Mar 2015
1978 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:02 pm to
It is long past time to secede.

However, the current system does what it is designed to do and that is keep things as close to the middle as possible so there is no tangible action taken by either side to cause mass chaos. The govt swings to the right and the left so that 40% of the people are always mad at the other 40% when their team is out of power.
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
28144 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:12 pm to
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you don’t start an investigation assuming 1 person is the culprit without proof.

interesting... b/c that doesn't seem to be how this DOJ operates currently
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the left has way more to lose with election fraud than the right

again, personally, i hope both parties burn to the ground... i hate both of them

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Do you really expect a Democrat run city to investigate itself for election frickery?

i expect the same stupidity and ineptness from both parties... they both suck arse...
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yes, you won’t get “evidence of fraud” if those who benefit from fraud don’t investigate it.

that goes for both sides, right?
Posted by wallowinit
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2006
18103 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:18 pm to
I spent way too much time with this. You’ve not once acknowledged my point. And now you want to make it about me. And since you’ve exhibited either zero reading comprehension or an absolute refusal to acknowledge the point I’m making because you cannot dispute it rationally, I think it’s obvious that you’re the idiot here chief.

I gave you the rope and you hung yourself.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
27224 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:55 pm to
Some states have taken action to make elections more secure so it is not just one thing directed at the problem.

The Save act would be a great step though. Tillis should be stripped of his committee positions.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
48066 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 2:56 pm to
What a naive fig you are
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8811 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:31 pm to
2000 - broward county with hanging chads is suspect
2004 - probably not. The heir apparent was in office and his opponent was sub-par.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8811 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:36 pm to
2016 - see broward county and Detroit
2024 - maybe, but the methods used in 2020 were under scrutiny, so minimal at best
Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
582 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:41 pm to
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When you quitting your day job and starting the revolution?


Likely sometime between the first and second hip replacements.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
11700 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:44 pm to
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was 2016 and 2024 corrupt too? or just that one singular 2020 election?


Did those years have all of the "tossup" states quit counting at the same fricking time? What are the odds of that? If you think those elections have anything in common you are either a liar or an idiot.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
13162 posts
Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:48 pm to
Who is in control of the news networks? The same ones who are against the Save Act. 85% of the voters are for fair elections. So who controls the Dems and the Rhino's? Not the American people that are legal residents. Trump is against an evil that is embedded in every aspect of our current govt. Barrack is still heavily involved. The Globalist including China have control. Kennedy called them out. Died protesting the loss of control by patriots.
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