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LightHeat
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Exactly. They were all in on it. Especially Fox. Iirc they were the first ones to report the fraud.
Now you're just trolling me. Your theory is Fox was pushing the Dominion-voting-machines-flipped-votes theory to get Biden fraudulently elected, and preferred to pay $787M to Dominion rather than have Dominion prove that Dominion voting machine theory was wrong? Which, presumably, would have even fewer people believing in fraud, and more people believing Biden was duly elected? Which is what you're saying Fox wanted in the first place?
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It MUST have legs if Fox paid $787 million to get Joe Biden elected by preventing discovery in the Dominion defamation suit.
"Fox paid $787 million to get Joe Biden elected by preventing discovery in the Dominion defamation suit"...in 2023?
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Completely irrelevant to the suit.
Irrelevant to the proceedings there, to be sure. But nonetheless true, and you and I didn't have to run that litigation, we just have to decide who's telling the truth. And it is absolutely relevant to that.
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Give us some examples of this opposing evidence.
Here you go. Affidavit of Christopher Thomas
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Wrong. You don’t even have the basic facts correct. So frustrating to argue with someone. That doesn’t have a. Grasp of the facts. Do some research. Even google will help on this one.
Can't find anything substantial after Googling. Just cut to the chase and tell me what you're talking about, maybe? ChatGPT concludes with "There is no verified evidence that illegal votes were counted in a way that meaningfully affected the 2020 presidential election results in Georgia. Isolated procedural issues were investigated, but they did not rise to the level of widespread illegal counting or overturning the certified outcome."
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You need an explanation for that? Are you a teenager?. Jesus. Google can help you there too. I didn’t realize you have no knowledge of anything. Let me help:
You're kind of salty, aren't you? I know what a bellwether county is. I just don't know what you mean by "overwhelming bellwether winner", particularly when you tie it directly to the Paxton lawsuit declaration, with which it has literally nothing to do. So I looked it up, and it seems like more bellwether counties than usual went to the overall loser of the 2020 election. That must be what you're referring to? So now, complete the thought. How does that make the Paxton declaration irrefutable?
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Define “widespread” and why that is important. Then I’ll post you some evidence.
Sure. By widespread, I mean something that can be shown with statistical significance. So it is a phenomenon en masse, not an individual or two. Furthermore, if you think elections are actually being stolen by means of organizing illegals to vote, then give something that shows in a specific election it could have tipped the balance. I concede, and have no doubt, that there have been individual cases where illegal immigrants have voted.
It's important because the OP is talking about ICE being deployed to polling stations, and infers from former Gov. Inslee's objection to that policy that Democrats want/need illegal immigrants voting to win more elections. That seems justified to a lot of people here, because (1) they believe ICE is only doing their statutorily authorized job and (2) believe that illegal immigrants vote in sufficient numbers, for Democrats, that it is worth protecting their ability to do that. I don't think (1) or (2) is true, but I'm open to hearing about it.
By the way, although you're a bit salty, I appreciate the fact that you're open to discussing it.
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It tells me that you don’t understand procedure very well and dismiss “only” 102 affidavits.
What's wrong with my description?
I didn't dismiss only 102 affidavits/declarations because the number of affidavits was low. I said the Trump campaign lied about how many there were. And when they were faced with opposing evidence, they folded, and then lied about why they were folding. Oh, I also dismissed the 102 affidavits because most of them were stupid.
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Were votes counted illegally in Georgia? Yes or no?
I think you mean "not counted". But yes, I believe there were approximately 1200 votes for Trump were not counted, and that the law in Georgia likely states that all votes must be counted.
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Wrong. It cannot. Name one other election where the bellwether overwhelming winner lost the election. I’ll wait.
Can you actually explain what you mean by the "the bellwether overwhelming winner"? You mean the guy who seemed to be winning overnight but ultimately lost? That's not the same statistical issue as the Paxton suit, but if you explain what you mean, I can address it.
I take it from your selective silence that you don't want to go through the specifics of the Wayne County lawsuit or Paxton expert declaration, that you do not, in fact, have evidence of widespread voting by illegal immigrants (much less for whom they voted), and have no real affirmative evidence that the 2020 election was stolen based on your research. But please feel free to correct me. Remember to be specific.
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True anecdotal story. Not that it has anything to do with anything, but my father voted in state and federal elections the last cycle. It doesn't matter who he voted for. What matters is that he is a full time ward of a memory care facility in South Louisiana. He has very advanced dementia and thinks he is living at home with his parents, who died in the mid-90's. My uncle is the one who uncovered it. I do not need to tell the details. Just know legal action was taken. Anyway, that and many other examples of vote farming is rampant in tUSA. It needs to stop.
Ugh, sorry.
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Edit to add: Vote in person instead of mail-ins also strengthens our democracy and erodes the Trumpster's insane accusations of mail-in fraud.
Personally, I love mail-in voting, because it takes me 30 minutes as opposed to three hours. But if that's what it takes to make MAGA happy, sure, Let's march in Sacramento, Albany, wherever.
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Oh but good sir, voter ID laws are the power of the state, not the federal government. The feds only dictate who is eligible to vote, but leaves the states the power to verify eligibility. So if the states would just get onboard, even Trump's outlandish claims of someone stealing the primaries would hold no water.
Irony duly noted. But I actually agree with you. We would see, for example, fewer people here swallowing these theories whole if there were more solid voter ID.
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What scrutiny. The cases were dismissed on procedural issues. What was the record of the cases where the actual evidence was examined? You researched a week. You should know this.
I do know this. I'll give you an example. In Trump v. Wayne County, the Trump campaign sued Wayne County, and presented 102 declarations attesting to election irregularities. Rudy Giuliani went on TV and said there were thousands, but there were only 102. I read every single one of the declarations. Most were stupid, like "I asked a question of a vote tabulator and he was rude to me". There were like three that, if true, seemed more serious. Wayne county moved for summary judgment, attaching the declaration of its chief election officer, explaining why the more serious-looking declarations were standard procedure. The Trump campaign had the right to respond. And it's actually a pretty low standard--if there is a genuine issue of material fact that stage, the Trump campaign would win. But instead, the Trump campaign voluntarily dismissed the case, stating that actually the elections board could decide the issue (which was not true). So, the Trump campaign submitted a bunch of declarations, most of them were stupid, they lied about the number of them on TV, and when confronted with the explanation, they voluntarily dismissed the case and lied about it. What does that tell you?
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The statistical anomaly cannot be refuted. Nobody cares what this one guy says. Still…who told you that was how his study was based? Be specific.
Yes it can, and I'll be specific. "This one guy" that "no one cares" about is the one guy supporting Ken Paxton's lawsuit. Paxton submitted an expert declaration. I'm talking about that expert. I assume you're not agreeing with me, so you're probably just confused about who he is--a very basic fact here. And if you don't have the basic facts down, you probably have no basis to say "The statistical anomaly cannot be refuted."
And no one told me how is study was based, I read his declaration. I went to the source document and read it. Like you should if you really want to know what's going on.
If you want to walk through the facts of the Wayne County lawsuit with actual documents from the case, or look at the expert's declaration directly, or really any other 2020 election theory, in a very specific manner, just let me know.
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This is exactly why all states must get aboard with voter ID. Voter ID protects democracy and would ensure tyrants such as Trump would never, ever have cause to rile up his crazy, cultish, MAGA base into extremely violent acts of insurection.
Sounds good to me.
Although, Trump even claimed that Ted Cruz fixed the 2015 Iowa caucus, so I don't think voter ID laws will stop him.
Biden was an objectively bad President. It turns out, you actually do need to be able to lead. Like, in person. His advisors have a lot to answer for.
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Well, now I’m sold this has some legs.
It MUST have legs if Fox only paid $787 million to settle Dominion's defamation suit.
That's just cost of litigation, people.
@TDTOM lol. You can, you know, ask me. I might not answer.
re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places
Posted by LightHeat on 1/29/26 at 12:11 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Idiot clowns drinking the kool-aid
There isn't a single American citizen that wont get out and vote because they think ICE will stop the.. Not 1
Its a made up bs liberal mechanism. They want illegal voting
ALL I'd laws make it free to get IDs for those who cannot afford. Dems strike that down, every time. Guess why...easy...so morons will be brainwashed to go on website forums and argue that not having a fricking id is racist and shouldn't be needed at voting areas....just like ice. What about police?
Lol...liberal tards.."forcing id is racist"....."having ice ask for IDs is racist"
Yall are whining little bitches. Not 1 single republican of ANY race, especially Mexican, has said he scared to go vote. What does that tell you?
Now put on your oversized flappy shoes, and go protest officers who enforce our laws
I'm going to need to see your passport, because this is barely English.
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You don’t do much research do you? Holy shite.
I've done a ton, actually. After the election I spent about a full week, and hours at a time after that, looking at every theory I could find, vote dumps, Antrim County, the Paxton lawsuit, whatever. Because IF it actually happened, it would be important and I would want to really KNOW. My conclusion: it was all bad faith, all the way down. Everything fell apart under scrutiny. Everything. It was sometimes complicated: Do you remember that the guy who signed the declaration in Ken Paxton's lawsuit said there was a one-in-a-quadrillion (or something) chance of the election results being legit? You know how he calculated that? He assumed the election would be exactly the same as in 2016, and that every vote that differed from 2016 was an independent coincidence (the analogy might be something like every vote different was an independent coin flip coming up heads again). It's complete bullshite, because the election was not the same as 2016. The electorate was not the same, some voters died and others became adults, and the candidates were different, Hillary was no longer the D nominee and people had seen four years of Trump, the campaigns were not the same, and the world was not the same. But it was just one or two levels deep enough (most people don't know what a declaration is, how to find one, or how to recognize the math is shite). Literally everything I looked at was like that. bullshite but just complicated enough to be difficult to understand. It was evil.
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Are you asking for evidence that illegals vote? Please tell me this is what you’re asking for.
I AM asking for it! My guess is that I could find a few individual cases if I try, but nothing that supports the wild-eyed theories on This August Forum.
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Yep. It was very funny.
Why? Trump lied about election fraud for months to rile up his base, had people submit false election certificates from swing states, sent a mob to the capitol on January 6 to intimidate Congress and, in particular, Mike Pence, all in an attempt to throw the voting to the House, which was GOP-dominated. And I've never seen anything to the contrary from the election-fraud gurus on this board that withstands even surface-level scrutiny.
But you seem pretty certain--why is that?
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holy shite.
You heard me.
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Comically naive or just dishonest?
I get that a lot of people here believe this at their core, but is that belief based on anything solid? If so, please post.
re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places
Posted by LightHeat on 1/28/26 at 4:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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I mean, someone that believes that is a moron.
I disagree. First, he's manifestly not a moron. He's just not in the MAGA bubble. Second, President Trump already tried to steal the 2020 election, and ICE in Minnesota is going far beyond simply rounding up illegal immigrants. So there is a plausible basis for his fear.
re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places
Posted by LightHeat on 1/28/26 at 4:36 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Give me a fricking break.
I take this to mean you find that view too conspiratorial. Do you also find the notion that Democrats are paying illegal immigrants to vote "give me a fricking break" worthy?
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Just curious, why wouldn't it suppress republican voters too?
It would. But if you do it in areas that are typically blue, you're likely to suppress more democratic votes.
re: Governor Inslee Demands ICE Stay Away From Polling Places
Posted by LightHeat on 1/28/26 at 1:50 pm to ChatGPT of LA
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Why wouldn't he demand ILLEGALS and UNREGISTERED voters stay away from polling places?
Any of you lunatic liberals care to answer?
Sure, it's not hard to explain. You believe a large number of illegals vote, and that ICE is only concerned with capturing and deporting illegals.
This particular politician does not believe illegals vote, and believes ICE will be stationed in blue areas to detain and harass people who are entitled to vote, thus suppressing turnout.
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