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re: If two men can get married, why stop there?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:10 am to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:10 am to ChineseBandit58
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quote:If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one not to worry - normal people dont have any problem the problem comes from idiotic democrats wanting everyone to worship them. why not tell the democrats to STFU and leave everyone else alone. Do what you want to do - just shut the fukc up about it
Solid post and 100% addresses the issue with the LGBTQ.....XYZ#+=¥£€ crowd. They're not satisfied with other Americans simply allowing them to lead their lives without fear of discrimination or bodily injury, it's not enough, they want others to affirm their lifestyles and be advocates too.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 11:12 am
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:18 am to burger bearcat
I agree to an extent. It’s interesting to let the thought play out. If we have been guard railed by our JudeoChristian belief system and that is no longer accepted then all that stuff we weren’t supposed to do, we can now do. For example, Biden’s showers were just fine. I’ll leave it at that.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:30 am
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:25 am to ibldprplgld
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If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one.
I like this argument and I agree 100%. If you don’t like guns, don’t buy one, if you don’t trust the vaccine, don’t get one, if you don’t like increased taxes, don’t pay them.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:46 am to TROLA
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TROLA
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:56 am to DEG
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The stupid shite people do is overshadowed only by the stupid shite people worry about.
There's no way you have children. I never cared about society until I had mine, then I started looking at the direction our world is headed, and it ain't good.
People worry about current culture only because we are devolving at an exponential rate.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 8:58 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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For example, Biden’s showers were just fine. I’ll leave it at that.
The "P" was always part of the plan to be added to their acronym.
From a purely liberal, atheistic, humanist worldview... following their logic for the rest of LGBT subject, it does not make sense why P stuff would also not be acceptable them. It's all sin, once you accept some sin, what prevents you from going into deeper and darker sin? There are no guardrails.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:03 am to Cuz413
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There's no way you have children. I never cared about society until I had mine, then I started looking at the direction our world is headed, and it ain't good.
People worry about current culture only because we are devolving at an exponential rate.
I can't even take my kids inside any metro area thè entire month of June. I was researching "things to do" this weekend in my area. It was all pride parades and drag shows, etc. All of downtown Cincy is covered in rainbow flags and they have major portions of the city shut down the entire weekend. I don't want my family exposed to that, so we will just stay away.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:05 am to ibldprplgld
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but why should you care what two consenting adults do?
For starters it's not what they do, it's a public recognition/endorsement. This is akin to getting rid of all moral decency laws and saying "If you don't want an orgy in the park don't have one". The public sphere isn't the same as what people do in private.
That aside, why just two adults, and why adults at all? Plenty of cultures don't have a problem marrying off a 13 year old for some sweet goats.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:16 am to Flats
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For starters it's not what they do, it's a public recognition/endorsement
This is correct
Adultery is legal. Most people find it to be immoral. There are no adultery parades or public celebrations for adulterers. We would all find that repulsive if a local city put on a display like that. This is the issue.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:30 am to TrueTiger
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Let's just get rid of government (legally) recognized marriage altogether.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:35 am to burger bearcat
I have nothing against marrying your dog.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:35 am to burger bearcat
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The "P" was always part of the plan to be added to their acronym.
No, it wasn’t. There are plenty of us in the LGBT community that are outraged by any implication of this.
The reason gay marriage is Constitutionally valid is the fact that the US govt has decided to tax married people differently than single people and many states grant married couples rights to pass down property to a spouse without going through probate.
If a bunch of mean-spirited, bigoted religious folk hadn’t stolen a gay person’s money and property when their partner died via probate (thus violating the wishes of their dead partner as outlined in their will), we wouldn’t be here. Two consenting adults entered into a contract (a will) and one of their families went to the court to argue that it be undone. Often times, they won, stripping someone of the property, housing, and money they had rightfully built through a long term partnership.
Since the government/states allow easy passage of accumulated property and different taxation brackets via marriage, it is a violation of the rights of gay adults who want to enter into that contract because they would be treated differently under the law.
Furthermore, straight people debased the sanctity and holy commitment of marriage by getting divorced at a 1:2 rate. Marriage among straight people in the US is a joke these days. The commitment means nothing and couples cheat and lie and destroy the well-being of each other on a daily basis.
The type of people I mention above have only themselves to blame for opening the door to a valid argument in favor of gay marriage.
Based on some of the comments I’ve just read, a few of the posters on this thread who call themselves Christians need to take a hard look in the mirror.
I’m also very outspoken about gay people who have gone into churches and demanded they change their doctrine so they can get married. That’s a form of social terrorism that I do not abide. These people should respect the rights of a congregation/denomination to believe and practice what they believe. These types of gays should go start their own damned church.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:50 am to TROLA
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You’ve identified what you believe to be a problem without establishing a foundation or at he very least a proposed solution..
I read a problem, foundation, and a solution
According to OP
Problem: same sex marriage
Foundation: for thousands of years marriage had a very specific reason, to form a union and create a family. [requires a male and a female btw]
Solution: if that is no longer the case you should be able to marry anything
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/22/24 at 9:59 am to burger bearcat
I don’t think people “get” what we are trying to say. Throw in poligamy again. How about about public nudity?
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:13 am to bluestem75
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The reason gay marriage is Constitutionally valid is the fact that five people decided it was Constitutionally valid.
Fixed.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:17 am to bluestem75
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Furthermore, straight people debased the sanctity and holy commitment of marriage by getting divorced at a 1:2 rate. Marriage among straight people in the US is a joke these days. The commitment means nothing and couples cheat and lie and destroy the well-being of each other on a daily basis.
I agree this is immoral behavior. I also think we should not celebrate or outwardly attempt to legitimize this behavior.
Your conflating the issue. No one is advocating to send the sex police into people's bedrooms. The question centers around how communities as a whole should celebrate or normalize certain behaviors. I think you are failing to understand this.
Homosexuality is sinful behavior. We know this, because the fruits are bad. It results in disease, despair, sexual debauchery, and cannot produce children.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:27 am to burger bearcat
The T’s and the Q’s hijacked the whole scene and kicked it into overdrive. If you’ll remember the 2010s, for the most part gay people stfu after they got the right to marry. They had the obnoxious viral ones on MSNBC / YouTube but those people were not in the majority. I never heard gay people bitch since 2012 until about 5 minutes ago when this thing turned into a worldwide craze.
The T’s and Q’s (the Q’s are the worst, basically they just want to fit in without having to suck d*cks) turned this into a worldwide celebration / trend. It’s like friggin Mardi Gras now. They turned something from “we just don’t wanna get our arse kicked if we’re holding hands with our boyfriend” to “hell yeah come get fricked up with us and wear bondage in front of kids!”
They always had pride fest and stuff, but now this shite is front and center and we have all these mentally ill / attention whoring narcissists who are pushing this to be the biggest celebration in the world. It’s not even about orientation anymore, it’s just about having a good time with an excuse to be a deranged a-hole on camera.
The T’s and Q’s (the Q’s are the worst, basically they just want to fit in without having to suck d*cks) turned this into a worldwide celebration / trend. It’s like friggin Mardi Gras now. They turned something from “we just don’t wanna get our arse kicked if we’re holding hands with our boyfriend” to “hell yeah come get fricked up with us and wear bondage in front of kids!”
They always had pride fest and stuff, but now this shite is front and center and we have all these mentally ill / attention whoring narcissists who are pushing this to be the biggest celebration in the world. It’s not even about orientation anymore, it’s just about having a good time with an excuse to be a deranged a-hole on camera.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 10:28 am to ibldprplgld
quote:Yes, they just want to get married and be left alone. They aren’t coming for our kids. Where have I heard this before?
Lots of false equivalences there, but why should you care what two consenting adults do? Seems kind of Karen-y. If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:03 pm to burger bearcat
Why is government involved in marriages at all? Government should have nothing to do with marriages.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 12:12 pm to burger bearcat
Dude..what are they doing to harm you? Go fight a real problem like world hunger or cancer....
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