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If Trump presidency leads to a civil war, will it be worth it?

Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:35 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:35 am
Let's pretend that what we are hearing about the deep state and the good ole boy network is all true. Let's pretend that they want the status quo and are funding groups like Antifa, BLM, white supremacy, etc. to disrupt his presidency and the nation. And finally, let's pretend this leads to a full blown civil war.
My question is this. Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 6:43 am
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:37 am to
Seeing as the South would go 0-2,

Probably not.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:37 am to
We refer to it as "the war of cuckold aggression" around here
Posted by tigerinexile
NYC
Member since Sep 2004
1270 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:54 am to
From time to time the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62444 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:23 am to
Meh, had to happen sometime. Good people have set silent too long....
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10982 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:27 am to
Anarchy is not the same as civil war, IMO...
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:27 am to
quote:

Seeing as the South


According to the election map, you might to want to rethink that statement.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:31 am to
quote:

Seeing as the South



Different North this go around. This North would associate with 8 year olds and stay in daycare.


Civil war would be foolish. We'd have alot of outside countries meddling in the outcome. We'd get a taste of our deep state medicine for all the proxy wars we've started.

If America wasnt a global asset, we'd been had a civil war orchestrated by the globalists. If a trend starts where we get politicians who care about us and not the globalist agenda, then I see a civil war sparking off as a last ditch effort
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 7:41 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58036 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Anarchy is not the same as civil war, IMO...


No, but the side being pummeled by the anarchist will one day fight back.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:51 am to
It's depends on who wins.

But my money won't be on the ones who are so confused that they don't know what restroom to use.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:01 am to
A reset is required on occasion. It has happened to hundreds of nations thousands of times throughout history. Sometimes it is peaceful; more often it includes violence. I am not advocating anything violent; just pointing out that the United States is not immune to the political forces and tides that have shaped human history.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:10 am
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?


To say yes would be to say that you prefer being ruled by an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy which is willing to kill Americans who refuse to capitulate. I can't imagine anyone who actually understands what it means to be an American who would willingly accept tyranny over bloodshed. Unfortunately, I think we are going to find out in the next decade or two.
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:03 am to
quote:

My question is this. Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?


the status quo had/has us living the greatest standard of living ever

a Civil War more than likely sets us back decades and destroys several generations from living a decent life

so no, I don't think it would be worth it
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51291 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:05 am to
quote:

From time to time the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.


I don't think Jefferson could have imagined the suffering and destruction that a 21st century war could inflict.

I'm ok not turning the United States into another Yemen.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:06 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58036 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:06 am to
quote:

To say yes would be to say that you prefer being ruled by an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy which is willing to kill Americans who refuse to capitulate. I can't imagine anyone who actually understands what it means to be an American who would willingly accept tyranny over bloodshed. Unfortunately, I think we are going to find out in the next decade or two.


But if you are an American who's sole subsistence is coming from the government, the status quo is great.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:07 am to
quote:

the status quo is great.


the status quo is great for 99% of Americans

we have not reached the point where real Civil War is needed

to think that we have reached that point is pure emotional hyperbole
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58036 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:16 am to
quote:

the status quo is great for 99% of Americans


It's greater for some than others.

quote:

to think that we have reached that point is pure emotional hyperbole


I didn't say we have
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:17 am
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:17 am to
quote:

It's greater for some than others.


...and?

the new status quo after a CW will also be greater for some than others

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:20 am to
quote:

If Trump presidency leads to a civil war, will it be worth it?


The premise is false.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:21 am to
quote:

you might to want to rethink that statement.


Nope.
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