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If Trump presidency leads to a civil war, will it be worth it?
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:35 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:35 am
Let's pretend that what we are hearing about the deep state and the good ole boy network is all true. Let's pretend that they want the status quo and are funding groups like Antifa, BLM, white supremacy, etc. to disrupt his presidency and the nation. And finally, let's pretend this leads to a full blown civil war.
My question is this. Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?
My question is this. Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 6:43 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:37 am to Revelator
Seeing as the South would go 0-2,
Probably not.
Probably not.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:37 am to Revelator
We refer to it as "the war of cuckold aggression" around here
Posted on 9/1/17 at 6:54 am to Revelator
From time to time the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:23 am to tigerinexile
Meh, had to happen sometime. Good people have set silent too long....
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:27 am to Revelator
Anarchy is not the same as civil war, IMO...
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:27 am to Tactical1
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Seeing as the South
According to the election map, you might to want to rethink that statement.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:31 am to Tactical1
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Seeing as the South
Different North this go around. This North would associate with 8 year olds and stay in daycare.
Civil war would be foolish. We'd have alot of outside countries meddling in the outcome. We'd get a taste of our deep state medicine for all the proxy wars we've started.
If America wasnt a global asset, we'd been had a civil war orchestrated by the globalists. If a trend starts where we get politicians who care about us and not the globalist agenda, then I see a civil war sparking off as a last ditch effort
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 7:41 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:38 am to Knight of Old
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Anarchy is not the same as civil war, IMO...
No, but the side being pummeled by the anarchist will one day fight back.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 7:51 am to Revelator
It's depends on who wins.
But my money won't be on the ones who are so confused that they don't know what restroom to use.
But my money won't be on the ones who are so confused that they don't know what restroom to use.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:01 am to Revelator
A reset is required on occasion. It has happened to hundreds of nations thousands of times throughout history. Sometimes it is peaceful; more often it includes violence. I am not advocating anything violent; just pointing out that the United States is not immune to the political forces and tides that have shaped human history.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:10 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:02 am to Revelator
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Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?
To say yes would be to say that you prefer being ruled by an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy which is willing to kill Americans who refuse to capitulate. I can't imagine anyone who actually understands what it means to be an American who would willingly accept tyranny over bloodshed. Unfortunately, I think we are going to find out in the next decade or two.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:03 am to Revelator
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My question is this. Would you have preferred that Trump not be elected and everything remain as it's always been, or would it be worth it even if change has to be accomplished through civil conflict and even war?
the status quo had/has us living the greatest standard of living ever
a Civil War more than likely sets us back decades and destroys several generations from living a decent life
so no, I don't think it would be worth it
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:05 am to tigerinexile
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From time to time the tree of liberty must be replenished with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
I don't think Jefferson could have imagined the suffering and destruction that a 21st century war could inflict.
I'm ok not turning the United States into another Yemen.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:06 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:06 am to troyt37
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To say yes would be to say that you prefer being ruled by an unelected and unaccountable bureaucracy which is willing to kill Americans who refuse to capitulate. I can't imagine anyone who actually understands what it means to be an American who would willingly accept tyranny over bloodshed. Unfortunately, I think we are going to find out in the next decade or two.
But if you are an American who's sole subsistence is coming from the government, the status quo is great.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:07 am to Revelator
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the status quo is great.
the status quo is great for 99% of Americans
we have not reached the point where real Civil War is needed
to think that we have reached that point is pure emotional hyperbole
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:16 am to Salmon
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the status quo is great for 99% of Americans
It's greater for some than others.
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to think that we have reached that point is pure emotional hyperbole
I didn't say we have
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:17 am
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:17 am to Revelator
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It's greater for some than others.
...and?
the new status quo after a CW will also be greater for some than others
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:20 am to Revelator
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If Trump presidency leads to a civil war, will it be worth it?
The premise is false.
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:21 am to Homesick Tiger
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you might to want to rethink that statement.
Nope.
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