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re: If Trump presidency leads to a civil war, will it be worth it?

Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:24 am to
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58123 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:24 am to
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The premise is false


How can a hypothetical premise be false?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79287 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:26 am to
No, I don't want to fight


I just want to dance
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13351 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:27 am to
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the status quo had/has us living the greatest standard of living ever


The American standard of living comes first from the producers in this country. The federal government, and the bureaucracy that uses the power of the federal government to maintain it's own power and relevance contributes almost nothing to the standard of living in this country.

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a Civil War more than likely sets us back decades and destroys several generations from living a decent life


"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

I don't want war any more than the next person, especially war with fellow Americans, but I'd much prefer it to being ruled as a subject by a tyrannical bureaucracy.

Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83616 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:30 am to
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The American standard of living comes first from the producers in this country. The federal government, and the bureaucracy that uses the power of the federal government to maintain it's own power and relevance contributes almost nothing to the standard of living in this country.



and the current status quo is that our government allows the producers to continue to grow that standard of living

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I'd much prefer it to being ruled as a subject by a tyrannical bureaucracy.


same here

we are nowhere close to that yet

Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20789 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:33 am to
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the status quo had/has us living the greatest standard of living ever


The talk of actual Civil War is one of the most hilarious things on this board. We have relatively no real problems in this country when it comes to our everyday lives and these clowns want to act like people are getting executed in the streets. They're typing out Jefferson's "Tree of liberty" quote on their iPhones from the comfort of their homes while watching football on a flat screen TV.
This post was edited on 9/1/17 at 8:34 am
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:38 am to
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The talk of actual Civil War is one of the most hilarious things on this board. We have relatively no real problems in this country when it comes to our everyday lives and these clowns want to act like people are getting executed in the streets. They're typing out Jefferson's "Tree of liberty" quote on their iPhones from the comfort of their homes while watching football on a flat screen TV.



Nice. The biggest proponents also have another thing in common, life has whipped their arse.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112700 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:40 am to
You can't call Pawl and complain about Auburn when there is a civil war going on.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:41 am to
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.


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That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

quote:


Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


The answer to this question has already been written. The government of this United States is only in power so long as We The People allow it to be....if necessary and if it were to end up righting the ship...it would absolutely be worth making this nation better and stronger in the long run for my family that has yet to be born.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20789 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:43 am to
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You can't call Pawl and complain about Auburn when there is a civil war going on.


Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13351 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:43 am to
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government allows


Your language is one of a Marxist/socialist. We The People allow the federal government to take of the fruits of our labor to provide and protect certain things. The Federalist Papers, The Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are great reading materials if you're confused on how this deal is supposed to work.

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we are nowhere close to that yet


You forget the premise of the OP's question.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:44 am to
quote:

The talk of actual Civil War is one of the most hilarious things on this board. We have relatively no real problems in this country when it comes to our everyday lives and these clowns want to act like people are getting executed in the streets. They're typing out Jefferson's "Tree of liberty" quote on their iPhones from the comfort of their homes while watching football on a flat screen TV.


well said.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:44 am to
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You can't call Pawl and complain about Auburn when there is a civil war going on.



"Pawl, I named my new puppy Saban"
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4305 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:45 am to
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Seeing as the South would go 0-2,


It wouldn't be the south vs the north, if there ever were a second Civil War. It'd be the cities vs the "country". My bet would be on the country folk personally.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:49 am to
Why do you hate America?
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28509 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:49 am to
How could a civil war even happen? Between who and who?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83616 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:50 am to
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Your language is one of a Marxist/socialist.


No, because

quote:

You forget the premise of the OP's question.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58123 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

The talk of actual Civil War is one of the most hilarious things on this board. We have relatively no real problems in this country when it comes to our everyday lives and these clowns want to act like people are getting executed in the streets. They're typing out Jefferson's "Tree of liberty" quote on their iPhones from the comfort of their homes while watching football on a flat screen TV. This post was edited on 9/1 at 8:34 am



Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13351 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:22 am to
quote:

quote:Your language is one of a Marxist/socialist.

No, because

quote:You forget the premise of the OP's question.


Sorry, you lost me there.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3118 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 9:28 am to
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Seeing as the South would go 0-2,

Probably not.


Well I would say, the side with the most guns would win.

Oh yea that is the south and the Red states.

oh BTW, the SJW's dont believe in guns so they would attack with rocks and bottles of piss while we attack with bullets.

Oh and one more thing, The military is red as well. Yea the SJW pussies are FUUUUUUCKED and the South and red states are Staaaaacked!!!!!
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 9/1/17 at 10:12 am to
The left has this bizarre fantasy that Trump single handily divided this nation and fostered all this anger and division.

This shite has been brewing for a long time. Trump is a manifestation of it, not the cause.
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