re: If the Deep State stole the election from Trump (and us) in 2020, why didn't they in 2024?

You should watch the PBD Podcast episode with Lara Trump. She outlines how an organized small army of lawyers stopped all the Democratic shenanigans. Very interesting.

Team Trump was way more prepared and headed them off several times.

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You should watch the PBD Podcast episode with Lara Trump. She outlines how an organized small army of lawyers stopped all the Democratic shenanigans. Very interesting.

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You would think the political junkies on this board that dominate every conversation would have already reviewed all of this information.


It’s really easy to find.

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Again, Kamala got more votes in GA than Biden did

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There are A LOT more illegal ballots in ga due to immigration and other shananigans. The voting machine manipulation was crushed by musk and his band of geeks.

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But, were any election reforms instituted between 2020 and 2024 that would have prevented it?

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Yes

Here is a grok synopsis on how mail voting security was tightened.

Yes, **mail voting security was tightened in many states for the 2024 U.S. presidential election compared to 2020**, primarily through new or stricter verification requirements, though changes varied by state and were often framed as restrictions on access.

### Key Changes Increasing Security
Post-2020, Republican-led legislatures in numerous states enacted laws adding safeguards to mail/absentee voting, citing concerns over the pandemic-era expansions that dramatically increased mail ballots (from about 43% of turnout in 2020 to around 30% in 2024).

- **Voter ID Requirements for Mail Ballots** — At least nine states introduced stricter voter ID rules for mail voting not in place in 2020, such as requiring photocopies of ID, driver's license numbers, or partial Social Security numbers on ballot envelopes or applications (e.g., Georgia's S.B. 202 in 2021, Texas, Virginia). Overall, eight states enacted new general voter ID laws since 2020, some affecting mail processes.

- **Signature Verification and Other Checks** — While signature verification was common in 2020 (used in about 31 states), some states refined or combined it with new requirements. For instance, North Carolina piloted additional signature verification in 2024 primaries and required photo ID copies with mail ballots (reverting from reduced witness rules used temporarily in 2020).

- **Restrictions on Ballot Handling and Deadlines** — Many states shortened windows for requesting/returning mail ballots, limited drop boxes, or restricted third-party ballot collection ("ballot harvesting"). The Brennan Center tracked restrictive changes in at least 29 states affecting voter ID, mail voting, or collection since 2020, with voters in 22+ states facing 38 new absentee restrictions for 2024.

- **Examples of Impact**:
- Georgia: Mail voting dropped from 26% of ballots in 2020 to 5% in 2024 after new ID and application rules.
- Texas and Florida: Similar declines due to stricter ID and drop-box limits.
- Overall, at least 19 states had new mail voting restrictions for the first time in a presidential election.

### Counterpoints and Context
- **Not Universal Tightening** ? Some states expanded mail access (e.g., easier requests or curing mismatched signatures), and a few reverted 2020 temporary expansions without adding new security. No nationwide changes occurred—elections are state-run.

- **Fraud Remains Rare** ? Experts (e.g., MIT Election Lab, Brennan Center) note mail voting fraud was exceedingly rare in 2020 and 2024, with existing safeguards (signature matching, tracking barcodes, audits) already robust. Many "tightening" laws were responses to unsubstantiated 2020 fraud claims.

- **Other Security Measures** ? Broader improvements included better USPS handling (similar high delivery rates as 2020), increased paper ballot use (nearly 99% of votes), and physical/cybersecurity enhancements, but these weren't specific to mail voting.

In summary, while mail voting was less widespread in 2024 due to reverted pandemic expansions, **security measures were explicitly strengthened in dozens of states through added ID and verification steps**, making processes stricter than in 2020 in those jurisdictions. For state-specific details, check your local election office.

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Again, Kamala got more votes in GA than Biden did

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GA is rapidly growing, and had 300K more adult citizens in 2024 than 2020. You didn't know that?

The same reason they didn’t in 2016. They were overconfident

Several key things happened due “knowing what they knew & learned from 2020”

1. Laura Trump built a team of lawyers, hundreds of them in all the key states where fraud has been happening and could happen. (Somewhere around 200-300 lawyers)

Plus thousands of volunteer grads root folks to organize and monitor the polling stations to keep them as honest as they could.

** and during the years in waiting, they started exposing and reversing some of the trickery on state and county levels thru lawsuits that we won.

2. Elon found the main server in Serbia or some off the wall place that all the IP addresses and coms from the Dominion folks and whatever else and froze it some sort of way to stamp any BS from happening.


I’m not a computer guy and sometimes don’t retell a story correctly, but Elon did some top level 007/CIA work on them.

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GA is rapidly growing, and had 300K more adult citizens in 2024 than 2020. You didn't know that?

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This just says the Democrats kept their votes in proportion to population increase, which means 2020 wouldn't be inflated.

If 2020 was rampant in fraud and the GOP stopped it, a rational person would expect a sizeable loss in votes, even with a population increase.

Trump won because the Democrats became unpopular, generally, and Kamala had to replace Biden. Nobody in particular likes Kamala. As soon as she was selected, especially in the manner they chose her, the election was over for the DEMs.

The reason why Kamala didn't come close to Biden's 81M was due to major losses in Democratic areas.

So? Trump had the most votes by a single candidate in the history of Georgia elections in 2024. It just wasn’t in play.