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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:04 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:04 am to
People are confusing Wong deferring to precedent (Elk v. Wilkins) with some sort of "gotcha". To my memory, this was not even a focus or argument of the government at oral arguments on this issue. Their "domicile" standard would also reverse Elk v. Wilkins for Indians born off the reservation.

I just looked and "domicile" appears only once in Elk, and it's not a substantive reference.

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And certainly it must be conceded that, except in cases of persons "naturalized in the United States," which phrase refers only to those who are embraced by the naturalization laws, and not to Indians, the Fourteenth Amendment does not require the citizenship granted by it to be evidenced by the record of any court, or of any department of the government. Such citizenship passes to the person of whatever race who is embraced by its provisions, leaving the fact of citizenship to be determined, when it shall become necessary to do so in the course of legal inquiry, in the same way that questions as to one's nativity, domicile, or residence are determined.
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:06 am to
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Today I learned that Yale Law Grad, Ron DeSantis, also moonlights as a “retard on Twitter”.


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Happy to help you out bud

Just wait till you hear about Yale Law Grad Sonia Sotomayor




I guarantee Robin is done posting in this thread after your reply. Ouch.
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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:24 am to
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This is why. The tribes were regarded as other nations whose citizens lived under their sovereign authority



Then this would also apply to non-citizens, and the offspring of them.
Posted by Robin Masters
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Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:42 am to
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I guarantee Robin is done posting in this thread after your reply. Ouch.


His attacking the legal opinion of one of the justices likely to be in most complete congruence with his own isn’t the take down you think it is.

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