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re: If my beliefs are right then why aren’t they more popular?
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:22 pm to weagle1999
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:22 pm to weagle1999
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To the right of today’s conservatives on a decent number of things, to the left of conservatives on a very small number of things (mainly centered around natural conservation), with some anarcho-libertarianism sprinkled in.
You're describing a 1990s Democrat, which is what I used to be until the liberals became enamoured with Che Guevara and Chairman Mao and it pushed me squarely into staunch conservative minarchism.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:26 pm to weagle1999
The moral path is hard, and therefore rarely popular.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:29 pm to weagle1999
I believe 60% plus of the country is either center right or far right.
2 recent proof points bear that out:
1. USAID had 6000 journalists on their payroll. They were paying for lefty propaganda to be magnified to the extreme.
2. Van Jones just admitted they had 10’s of thousands of people on social media constantly talking about how expensive everything was.
So, this lefty lurch we feel is 100% manufactured. People don’t voluntarily give up their freedoms.
2 recent proof points bear that out:
1. USAID had 6000 journalists on their payroll. They were paying for lefty propaganda to be magnified to the extreme.
2. Van Jones just admitted they had 10’s of thousands of people on social media constantly talking about how expensive everything was.
So, this lefty lurch we feel is 100% manufactured. People don’t voluntarily give up their freedoms.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:30 pm to TrueTiger
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The moral path is hard, and therefore rarely popular.
reason the left does not take that path
Lots of societies have been destroyed by their popular beliefs.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 5:32 pm to weagle1999
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If my beliefs are right then why aren’t they more popular?
I think they covered this in Sunday School. Didn't you ever go?
Posted on 11/11/26 at 7:28 pm to weagle1999
The majority of the right shares 95% of the same opinions. We're just extremely intolerant of that 5%.
If someone has opinions that are mostly left, then you can ignore them. You cannot be a normal person on the left as they put too much emphasis on feelings instead of data.
If someone has opinions that are mostly left, then you can ignore them. You cannot be a normal person on the left as they put too much emphasis on feelings instead of data.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:11 pm to Penrod
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There is an explanation - a theory - but it’s depressing.
Evolution is a process mysterious to us, but certain features are well known. Societies evolve according to similar rules as species do.
When an individual member of a species becomes useless to the seeming purposes of evolution it tends to die. When societies become useless they tend to die also.
The society of the USA (and the West in general) is at the pinnacle of human civilization. It would be a difficult argument to make that there is anything approaching an equal. But we clearly are no longer innovating (I’m not speaking of technology but of the society itself). The apex of our civilization seems to have been reached.
When this happens to societies the people inhabiting them have tended, throughout history, to lose confidence - just as they achieve maximum success; just as our reason tells us they should be most confidant.
I believe this is an evolutionary process to vacate the stage so the frontier can be pushed forward by others. The troubling thing about that is that there are always enormous steps backwards before the progress gains new ground.
Anyway, that’s my theory. I’m sure it’s been put forward by others. In fact, I likely pilfered it unknowingly, because I’ve never thought of much original before.
Ever read any Oswald Spengler?
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:12 pm to Tigerlaff
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Ever read any Oswald Spengler?
No I have not. I’ll research him.
ETA: I read a chatgpt summary. That guy was amazingly prescient.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:13 pm to Django Unchained
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People don’t voluntarily give up their freedoms.
what? Of course they do. Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:19 pm to weagle1999
Everyone’s perspectives are shaped by their experiences, values, families, communities, etc. These variables are different for everyone and everyone *knows* they are right.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:21 pm to weagle1999
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Any suggestions on how to answer this?
What's right is not always easy, and what's easy is not always right.
We live in a era where humanity LOVES easy.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:22 pm to weagle1999
Because the number of stupid people in this country is greater than you might believe. Try teaching high school for verification of this.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:24 pm to LRB1967
You expect teenagers to be wise and/or make good choices?
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:29 pm to weagle1999
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If my beliefs are right then why aren’t they more popular?
frick popularity. Since when are faith and morals a popularity contest?
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:31 pm to Penrod
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ETA: I read a chatgpt summary. That guy was amazingly prescient.
He is on the no-no list of accomplished intellectuals because he expressed (valid) criticism about democracy and republicanism. There are many more like him who are purposefully excluded from general study or even mention. I certainly never heard the names Spengler or Bertrand de Jouvenel or Thomas Carlyle from the faculty of my fancy prep school or the LSU Honors College. The closest you are likely to get is The Prince.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:34 pm to Tigerlaff
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He is on the no-no list of accomplished intellectuals because he expressed (valid) criticism about democracy and republicanism. There are many more like him who are purposefully excluded from general study or even mention. I certainly never heard the names Spengler or Bertrand de Jouvenel or Thomas Carlyle from the faculty of my fancy prep school or the LSU Honors College. The closest you are likely to get is The Prince.
Karl Marx
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 pm to Penrod
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Karl Marx
My point exactly. Marx is one of the most radical philosophers in history and yet every college student in the west (and east lol) gets at least some exposure to him and could maybe tell you the gist of his philosophy. Who is the equivalent right wing version of Marx? Uhhh... you're not supposed to think about that. Here have some Keynes and Kant.
This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:40 pm to weagle1999
A lot of people believe in things that likely aren't true.
Look at most organized religions for instance.
Look at most organized religions for instance.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:45 pm to TrueTiger
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The moral path is hard, and therefore rarely popular.
The problem today is that both sides think they are the moral side.
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:48 pm to Tigerlaff
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It's his challenge to the assumption that economic growth, technological advancement, and material prosperity automatically mean a society is progressing.
A country can become wealthier, more technologically advanced, more powerful militarily, and more sophisticated while simultaneously losing its cultural identity, social cohesion, and sense of purpose.
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