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re: If my beliefs are right then why aren’t they more popular?

Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:52 pm to
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:52 pm to
Somewhere along the line you lost sight of the concept of opinion. In the arena of discussion and debate, everyone is more or less exchanging opinions, and by the very nature of the concept of opinion and opinion sharing, no one can necessarily be “right” over everyone else sharing their opinion. Of course you can believe in your own mind that your own opinion is “right” or superior to all others, which is fine as long as you remember “opinion”.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
16090 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 8:56 pm to
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Evolution is a process mysterious to us


Assuming we're talking about the typical materialist concept of evolution, not really. Microevolution is pretty easy to explain/understand. Random natural selection, gene mutation, gene flow, genetic drift.

The only "mysterious" part is when you (royal you, not you individually) attempt to insist that macroevolution is a thing when there's very little evidence for it, lots of evidence against it, but you're still stuck in 19th century dogma because people believe it could explain away the need for God. When you won't let go of a fatally flawed theory then the "science of the gaps" gets re-framed as a "mystery" that just hasn't been solved yet. But I digress...

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When an individual member of a species becomes useless to the seeming purposes of evolution it tends to die.


There's no "purpose" to evolution. It doesn't reward some and punish others, and there's no "usefulness" that it "prefers." It's not a "thing" at all, just a word used to describe adaptation and survival (or lack thereof).

Some individuals and some entire species are able to adapt to their environment and some aren't. The ones who can survive and the ones who can't die off. They don't die off for the deliberate purpose of making room for others who are better able to survive, they just die off, period.

Framing it that way, sure, societies could be analogous.

I think just like an individual animal that is allowed to become inactive and fat and too comfortable becomes less able to survive, so do societies.

We're the most comfortable society that has ever existed.





This post was edited on 11/11/26 at 8:57 pm
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
23318 posts
Posted on 11/11/26 at 10:26 pm to
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You expect teenagers to be wise and/or make good choices?


I expect teenagers to be able to identify the current President, recite the Pledge of Allegiance, know which restroom to use, and maintain acceptable hygiene.
Posted by Stat M Repairman
Member since Jun 2023
4062 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 12:13 am to
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
22296 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 12:52 am to
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If my beliefs are right


What makes a belief "right?"

Take for example, the murder of the preborn. On the Word of God Almighty, life begins at conception. The pro-life position was Biblically "right." Pro-lifers could win every argument. But abortion was legal nationwide until Dobbs (thank you Donald Trump and Mississippi). Right and popularity are not necessarily congruent.

Apart from some transcendent moral standard, how would you know if something is "right?"
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
65821 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:14 am to
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attempt to insist that macroevolution is a thing when there's very little evidence for it, lots of evidence against it


Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
118426 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 4:34 am to
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my beliefs are correct, but they don’t seem to be very popular.

Popularity is detetermined by the majority of people. Most people are stupid. It's why The Ohio Express song: 'Yummy Yummy Yummy, I got Love in My Tummy' sold millions even though it seemed written by a 5 year old.
People believe the global warming lie because they're stupid. People still believe they will die if they don't wear a mask.
Posted by junkyarddawg3
Metro ATL
Member since Nov 2015
2452 posts
Posted on 11/12/26 at 5:14 am to
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Popularity isn't a measure of truth. Seek out people who disagree with you and test your beliefs against their strongest arguments. But you also need the intellectual honesty to change your mind when the evidence demands it. Otherwise you're defending beliefs, not seeking truth.

Humans are terrible at this, though


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