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re: If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes

Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:31 pm to
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or straight up liars
ISWYDT
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:32 pm to
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The OVErWHELMING MAJORITY are gay.


Nu-uh









Some are bisexual.
And others are trans.
And there’s that one guy who is straight who’s a drag queen.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:34 pm to
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Fair enough. It is certainly true that not all drag performers are gay ... just the VAST majority. The bulk of those in this thread seemed focused on the "gay element," and I wrongly imputed the same focus to you. My apologies.



I'll say your halfway right. Seeing as homosexuality is a perverse action, and that it doesn't support a morally aligned society, I don't think it should be advertised to kids either as ok. It should be largely ignored and allowed to be contextualized by parents and communities the parents choose, because of the type of issue it is. At large, it shouldn't be celebrated. Acceptance should be the only goal, but we've gone so far past that at this point, and that doesn't come in the form of explaining homosexuality to kids under the age of 10 or 12.

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So, your concern is not so much the "grooming" of kids (to temporarily accept the thread-majority definition), but rather the DRAG ITSELF, because drag is (by design) a critique of gender roles. You see an attack on gender roles as being bad for society.


Eh? No, I'm saying that drag by defition is a complicated morally perverse topic meant to desensitize anyone, kid or adult, which really is grooming, which really is why celebrating drag with kids in any form is morally reprehensible.

Drag story hours are an intended act to create more sexually accepting children. Period. Doesn't matter if their costume is "successful" or not. It's purely about sex and moral limitations. And has no place being celebrated in anything outside of adult-only communities and locations.

This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:34 pm to
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And there’s that one guy who is straight who’s a drag queen.
More letters incoming .... LGBTQISDQ
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:34 pm to

This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 1:35 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:35 pm to
How do all those letters fit on a T-Shirt?
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:35 pm to
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Being a clown isn't based on your sexuality or sexual preferences.


Wait, you mean clowns aren't gay? Hank says they are one in the same and drags are just entertainers too. The way I see it, clowns entertain kids while drag queens want to be entertained by kids if you get my drift!
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:37 pm to
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I get what you're saying, but we are talking 2022.

This is a new breed of Narcissistic a-holes, not the Cher impersonators as seen in "Priscilla Queen of the Desert".



Yup.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:40 pm to
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Wait, you mean clowns aren't gay? Hank says they are one in the same
No, Hank drew an analogy about performers preferring to wear their regalia while performing.
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Exactly what harm do you see for the kids who are present?


You should watch the video I linked. Its not just a guy in drag reading stories. They specifically cover LGBTQ topics before kids really have a firm grasp or even a elementary understanding on what these concept like sex, sexual orientation, gender etc.. mean. Is that harmful...eh IDK but it does seem more like indoctrination than education if you dont have the faculties to really understand it.

Now I do think you are right in one sense...these parents that bring their kids to these events..they are already on board and are probably teaching their kids about these topics anyway so it probably not moving the needle as far as the harm.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:43 pm to
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Identifying the basic difference between male and female is one of the most fundamental parts of a child’s social development.

Short-circuiting that process is the goal. It’s an explicit goal of Drag Queen Story Hour. And that will have far-reaching consequences for the individual and society.


Now here's a thinking man's post....good job!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:45 pm to
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No, Hank drew an analogy about performers preferring to wear their regalia while performing.


But it was one of your usual really, really shitty analogies.

Perhaps you should try harder.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:45 pm to
I do plan to watch the video. I am sure it is informative, but it is just a bit long to watch right now. Maybe I'll watch it with a beer tonight.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:50 pm to
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How do all those letters fit on a T-Shirt?
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:51 pm to
Add an "M" to the end for "motorboat".
Posted by dukkbill
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 1:56 pm to
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Yes. As Roadie and I were discussing, there is no question that this is occurring to some extent. The question is "to what extent?"


Others have addressed this more thoroughly, but you seem to have a hard time understanding this concept. There is not a question of macro effect. That specific issue could not even be studied until a much later time

The prevalence and impact of macro effects would be important in these types of situations

- we were developing a specific law enforcement task force to focus on the issue
- we were changing education outcomes for a specific grade level

When you are dealing with the specific use of a public accommodation , then risk is evaluated, not epidemic effect

You ascribe a point of view to people argue against that, and then just try to find excuses to talk about your self

If a herptologist wants to do a children’s program, you wouldn’t deny them a permit because your anti-serpent, but you might look closely into the safety measures before granting that permit.

No one is anti-gay because they analyze whether certain activities are age appropriate. People are discussing that item, but you just seem to want to win an argument, or in your words have fun by responding with hyperbole
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 6/16/22 at 2:06 pm to
MSB

Motor boatin sumBitch
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 2:06 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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44345 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 2:09 pm to
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MSB -- Motor boatin sumBitch
Posted by dukkbill
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 2:10 pm to
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They specifically cover LGBTQ topics before kids really have a firm grasp or even a elementary understanding on what these concept like sex, sexual orientation, gender etc.. mean.


Yes. Moreover, contrary to Hanks assertions earlier, they are reading “The Little Engine That could”. For instance, it looks like one of the older and more used texts is “The Hips on the Drag Queen Go Swish, Swish,” which
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…offers a quirky twist on a classic nursery rhyme by illustrating all of the ways to work it.
Dqsh bookstore

I haven’t seen any discussion on the book approval process.
This post was edited on 6/16/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6622 posts
Posted on 6/16/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Nope. Not good enough.


Cool, I can't wait for you to apply this kind of logic to every public and private activity.
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