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re: If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:35 am to AggieHank86
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:35 am to AggieHank86
Both are better than Frank Diprima, wouldn't you agree?
Hanks' idea of a good source, obliterated by Shorty Rob....
Hanks' idea of a good source, obliterated by Shorty Rob....
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:38 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Did you seriously just cite the Urban Dictionary as a source for defining "grooming?" That may be better than Gateway Pundit, though.
Pathetic attempt.
LINK
From Rainn.org:
1- Victim selection: Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access to them or their perceived vulnerability.
2- Gaining access and isolating the victim: Abusers will attempt to physically or emotionally separate a victim from those protecting them and often seek out positions in which they have contact with minors.
3- Trust development and keeping secrets: Abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention, sharing “secrets” and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train them to keep the relationship secret.
4- Desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics: Abusers will often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging, wrestling and tickling, and later escalate to increasingly more sexual contact, such as massages or showering together. Abusers may also show the victim pornography or discuss sexual topics with them, to introduce the idea of sexual contact.
5- Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural, to avoid raising suspicions. For teens, who may be closer in age to the abuser, it can be particularly hard to recognize tactics used in grooming. Be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes secrecy, undue influence or control, or pushes personal boundaries.
POS!
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:39 am to Flats
quote:Then point #4 isn't particularly applicable, is it?
I am obviously not asserting that any of you are alone in your views.quote:
No, you're just lying
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:41 am to Jjdoc
You need to check out this link.
What Hank considers to be a reliable source is a complete joke.
If only for the entertainment value, it's fun watching Shorty Rob totally eviscerate him:
Hanks' idea of a good source
What Hank considers to be a reliable source is a complete joke.
If only for the entertainment value, it's fun watching Shorty Rob totally eviscerate him:
Hanks' idea of a good source
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:46 am to Jjdoc
quote:
Pathetic attempt.
LINK
From Rainn.org:
Rational people would say, "I have an issue with the term you are using...however, let me opine on what you are referencing. Then they would presumably agree or disagree.
Hank says "You are using the wrong term...therefore what you are referencing doesn't exist...and isn't a problem."
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:50 am to Flats
quote:So, we are in agreement that this sort of Story Hour is "desensitization" rather than first-person "grooming." I certainly agree that it has that aspect to it and that some level of desensitization is a goal of the organization.
Desensitization
And I THINK that we are in agreement that what we are ACTUALLY discussing is "whether desensitization is a good thing" or (at least) to what extent.
Apparently, most of the posters think that the goal of the desensitization is to eventually turn all these kids into gays, or trannies, or queers, or furries, or drag queens. By contrast, I think the goal of the desensitization is just to reduce stigma. And a handful of posters seem to think that even the idea of reducing stigma is anathema to Western Civilization.
Glad we finally got that cleared-up.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:51 am to AggieHank86
quote:Which of course brings this full circle ... "If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes."
I do NOT accept the premise that reading to kids in outlandish costumes constitutes "grooming."
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:52 am to AggieHank86
quote:
Why do circus clowns wear their makeup when performing for kids? Certainly they could do magic tricks and tie balloon animals in street clothes, right?
Being a clown isn't based on your sexuality or sexual preferences. The entirety of being a drag queen is based on those factors. Of course, you knew that but were desperate to try to analogize your political movement's evil deviancy with something more innocent.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:53 am to NC_Tigah
Odds: Does he call you a rube, attack your source or deny he said what he said?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:54 am to AggieHank86
quote:
goal of the desensitization is to eventually turn all these kids into gays, or trannies, or queers, or furries, or drag queens.
With the help of parents some will turn
How else to we explain the rise in trans kids and now even drag kids being highlighted.
You mentioned something about kids and trendy. Where do these trends come from?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:55 am to moneyg
quote:I am unsure what thread you have been reading. I have repeatedly acknowledged that the Story Hour DOES desensitize and that this is indeed probably one of the organization's goals.
Rational people would say, "I have an issue with the term you are using...however, let me opine on what you are referencing. Then they would presumably agree or disagree.
Hank says "You are using the wrong term...therefore what you are referencing doesn't exist."
The question is the GOAL of the desensitization. You see one goal (conversion of the entirety of the next generation to gays/trannies/drag performers), and I see another (removal or reduction of stigma). You think that makes me evil. I think that makes you histrionic.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
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You see one goal (conversion of the entirety of the next generation to gays/trannies/drag performers)
Did he say that or are you doing that which you loathe?
Posted on 6/16/22 at 11:57 am to AggieHank86
quote:What pray tell (or should we say prey tell) do you suppose grooming is?
"desensitization" rather than first-person "grooming."
Allow me to help you. Grooming is desensitization designed to open the target up to more probable acceptance of sexual contact.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:00 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Yes. And it brings us back to essentially two sets of opinions: (a) a desire to convert an entire generation into gays/trannies and drag performers vs (b) a desire to lessen the stigma associated with being gay/trans or a drag performer.
I do NOT accept the premise that reading to kids in outlandish costumes constitutes "grooming."quote:
Which of course brings this full circle ... "If Drag Queens intentions are pure, why don't they simply wear their everyday clothes."
As I see it, the illumination provided by this thread is that those who hold opinion (b) just tend to see the (a) group as being a bit silly or histrionic, while group (a) feels a need to demonize group (b).
It is an odd dynamic.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:03 pm to AggieHank86
You know, Hank, you said yesterday that people think you sound like Frasier or Niles.
I disagree.
You come across more as Oliver Wendell Douglas, with the pomposity of Charles Emerson Winchester.
I disagree.
You come across more as Oliver Wendell Douglas, with the pomposity of Charles Emerson Winchester.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:04 pm to Godfather1
quote:
You know, Hank, you said yesterday that people think you sound like Frasier or Niles.
He was lying.
Literally no one has ever said that to Hank.
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:07 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Neither is being a drag performer. It is true that MOST drag performers are gay, but there are also straight men and even a handful of transgenders.
Being a clown isn't based on your sexuality or sexual preferences.
quote:That is directly at odds with the psychological literature. There are basically three groups who dress in clothing normally associated with the opposite gender. One is "trannies." They WANT to be women, and do not get sexual gratification from the clothing. VERY few of them do drag shows. Another is cross-dressers. Most are straight men with a fetish for women's clothing. There is DEFINITELY a sexual element to their sartorial selections, but very few of them do drag shows. Last is drag performers. They are largely comprised of gay men, with no desire whatsoever to transition into women. They dress to create oversized characters for their performances, and they do NOT generally get any sexual gratification from their attire.
The entirety of being a drag queen is based on those factors
quote:Yes, I knew that. I have known it for decades, because I am well-read.
Of course, you knew that
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:08 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Yes, I knew that. I have known it for decades, because I am well-read.
Bless your heart.....
Posted on 6/16/22 at 12:13 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
So, we are in agreement
Nope. Weren’t you just whining about people putting words in your mouth.
Desensitizing is part of the grooming process. It is not the only part they’re doing and I never claimed it was, despite your dishonesty.
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