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re: If Dems “found” ballots in ‘20 in order to win then Biden would have outperformed polls

Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:35 am to
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It amazes me that folks still think that nearly 160 mil people voted in that election


They illegally ballot harvested enough to win, but it’s still true that nearly 160 million people voted in that election. “They cheated” and “a record number of people showed up to vote for and against Trump” are both true. They probably only needed a million or fewer voted to flip the key states.

I think some of you have fooled yourself into thinking that without cheating Trump would have had some sort of blowout.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
29691 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:44 am to
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You can not prove that from the data presented. It is a nice theory, but you are making assumptions and thus the need to use the word "presumably"


I acknowledge that. Just as no one here can prove fraud flipped the election, I can’t prove it didn’t.

This is just a theory and a look at the data related to that theory. But when you add this theory and the data that supports it to the facts:

-Trump’s clown show of a lawyer team couldn’t prove fraud flipped the result just after the election,
-it’s been 2.5 years since the election, and Trump hasn’t provided clear and compelling evidence fraud flipped the result, and
-Trump has claimed election fraud before against Ted Cruz but now is buddy buddy with him, indicating that Trump claims “election fraud” as a matter of course when he losses
-Trump is running for President again and believes he can and will win. If he really believes the 2020 election was stolen via fraud, would he be doing this?


The picture seems pretty clear, albeit not certain.

Big claims require big evidence. The person making the claim has the burden to prove it; it’s not on others to prove they’re wrong.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:48 am to
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I acknowledge that.


Thread over.

The rest of your post has nothing to do with your OP.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8616 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 8:55 am to
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Trump didn’t do what it took to win


Trump got more votes than ANY incumbent President in history.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28172 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:04 am to
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Trump got more votes than ANY incumbent President in history.


He also had more people vote against him than ANY incumbent President in history.

The guy is hyper-polarizing; I think even the most loyal Trump fan can admit that.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42383 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:06 am to
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Trump got more votes than ANY incumbent President in history.


Not to mention I think no incumbent that increased their votes has ever lost until Trump. It defies logic.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
22072 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 9:17 am to
the whole point of polls is to justify fraud.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
13157 posts
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:02 am to
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I think some of you have fooled yourself into thinking that without cheating Trump would have had some sort of blowout.




Okay ma'am, what ever you say.

quote:

They illegally ballot harvested enough to win, but it’s still true that nearly 160 million people voted in that election. “They cheated” and “a record number of people showed up to vote for and against Trump” are both true. They probably only needed a million or fewer voted to flip the key states.


Like I said, I'm amazed.
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