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If Biden was out of it, and his staff was running things via autopen - is that criminal?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:32 am
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:32 am
Were any crimes committed?
Obviously, this is a huge breach of trust, but are there any crimes committed?
Obviously, this is a huge breach of trust, but are there any crimes committed?
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 10:33 am
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:35 am to Jax-Tiger
I’m sure it’s not legal for anybody to use his auto pen 
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:38 am to Jax-Tiger
Let's start with Fraud .
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:38 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:
Were any crimes committed?
Should be.. but who knows?
Autopen has been around in some form or fashion for a very, very long time.
I believe Obama was the first to use it to sign legislation and other official acts.
I guess he was playing the long game... normalized it during his own term so it would be imperceptible come his "third" term he spoke so fondly of.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:40 am to Jax-Tiger
Well, it is textbook fraud to sign something for someone else without their knowledge.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:41 am to jb4
Apparently, most of the auto pen in question occurred near the end after Trump was elected. Biden was a corpse and his staff was “trump proofing” crap that they wanted to continue…seems like it snowballed into pardons for everyone and biden had no clue….
Probably a crime
Probably a crime
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:41 am to SUB
quote:
Well, it is textbook fraud to sign something for someone else without their knowledge.
All they have to claim is they had his orders to sign documents.
I doubt he'd deny it.
What then?
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:41 am to Jax-Tiger
quote:
Were any crimes committed?
No.
quote:
Obviously, this is a huge breach of trust, but are there any crimes committed?
No.
By now you should be able to identify who is really running with this story (and all the goofy hyperbole they're using) to sniff out this has virtually no hope of going anywhere meaningful.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:43 am to mwade91383
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mwade91383
Naw, nobody outside of 5 people knowing who was making decisions for 4 years is A-OK.
I absolutely hate leftists.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:43 am to Jax-Tiger
Without the intent of the signatory authority, it is a forgery.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:44 am to Jax-Tiger
Yes. It’s definitely criminal.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:44 am to Jax-Tiger
Not surprised roadgators boyfriend doesn’t know if it was illegal or not.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:46 am to RohanGonzales
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Naw, nobody outside of 5 people knowing who was making decisions for 4 years is A-OK.
free beer tomorrow! I'm going to go ahead and bookmark this, just for fun.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:47 am to Jax-Tiger
It is as close to a treasonous act as you can imagine without the use of firearms in the process.
I do not see how anyone who was involved with this cover-up can be allowed to continue in any sort of official capacity - and their actions ought to be screened with the PRESUMPTION that they were knowingly committing TREASONOUS 'palace coup'.
In this case, any of them who cannot come up with a 'reasonable' explanation for their complicity should be convicted of at LEAST a 'conspiracy' to commit treason and suffer at least a 25 year prison sentence, if not more.
THIS is the saddest episode in the long history of the USA - and an EXAMPLE must be made of its seriousness -
What we need is a RECONSTRUCTION period - just like following the civil war.
At LEAST a half century of PRESUMED GUILT for anyone associated with the DEMOCRAT party - and THEY must be disallowed ANY official governmental office - and lose their right to VOTE for a decade or more.
I do not see how anyone who was involved with this cover-up can be allowed to continue in any sort of official capacity - and their actions ought to be screened with the PRESUMPTION that they were knowingly committing TREASONOUS 'palace coup'.
In this case, any of them who cannot come up with a 'reasonable' explanation for their complicity should be convicted of at LEAST a 'conspiracy' to commit treason and suffer at least a 25 year prison sentence, if not more.
THIS is the saddest episode in the long history of the USA - and an EXAMPLE must be made of its seriousness -
What we need is a RECONSTRUCTION period - just like following the civil war.
At LEAST a half century of PRESUMED GUILT for anyone associated with the DEMOCRAT party - and THEY must be disallowed ANY official governmental office - and lose their right to VOTE for a decade or more.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:52 am to Jax-Tiger
The problem begins and ends with the fact that Joe Biden was not, nor was he ever the rightful winner of the 2020 general election.
Everything else that followed was brought on by a band of illegitimate usurpers and criminals occupying the White House as they foisted a desiccated husk of a career politician in front of the cameras to keep their charade going.
Jake Tapper said that Hunter Biden was acting as de facto Chief of Staff.
Cocaine was found in the WH.
Topless trannies were flouncing around on the WH lawn.
Cross-dressing deviants charged with dealing with the nation's nuclear waste were stealing luggage at the airport then wearing the stolen clothing to official events.
13 US servicemen and 100+ Afghani citizens were murdered in a suicide bombing that targeted the chaos surrounding the botched US withdrawal from Kabul.
Potatohead Joe kept checking his watch while observing the bodies of the murdered servicemen being returned to Dover AFB.
Elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Everything else that followed was brought on by a band of illegitimate usurpers and criminals occupying the White House as they foisted a desiccated husk of a career politician in front of the cameras to keep their charade going.
Jake Tapper said that Hunter Biden was acting as de facto Chief of Staff.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Cocaine was found in the WH.
Topless trannies were flouncing around on the WH lawn.
Cross-dressing deviants charged with dealing with the nation's nuclear waste were stealing luggage at the airport then wearing the stolen clothing to official events.
13 US servicemen and 100+ Afghani citizens were murdered in a suicide bombing that targeted the chaos surrounding the botched US withdrawal from Kabul.
Potatohead Joe kept checking his watch while observing the bodies of the murdered servicemen being returned to Dover AFB.
Elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:55 am to Jax-Tiger
All Biden has to say, he authorized it.
We will have to prove he did not have the mental capacity to authorize it.
We will have to prove he did not have the mental capacity to authorize it.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:57 am to SallysHuman
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All they have to claim is they had his orders to sign documents.
I doubt he'd deny it.
What then?
If he lacked capacity, (He did) and they were aware, (they were) then there is a huge issue of legality.
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 10:58 am
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:58 am to mwade91383
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this has virtually no hope of going anywhere meaningful.
This could go somewhere meaningful, even if no crimes were committed. If we can expose beyond a shadow of a doubt that Biden was cuckoo for Coco-Puffs, then a lot of people could be out in the Democrat power structure.
The infighting as people try to distance themselves from this will be epic. One thing people with close ties to he administration SHOULD NOT be able to do is to say they had no idea that Joe was impaired. EVERYONE knew and we need to make sure that everyone who claims otherwise is exposed for being a liar.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:59 am to DarthRebel
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All Biden has to say, he authorized it.
We will have to prove he did not have the mental capacity to authorize it.
Exactly. And not his state now, but you'd need incredibly strong evidence proving AT THAT TIME he was mentally unable to authorize it.
Like it's total jibberish. If you don't have the common sense to see this is really never going anywhere, you're helpless.
Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:59 am to cyarrr
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If he lacked capacity, (He did) and they were aware, (they were) then there is a huge issue of legality.
Sadly, the 25th Amendment didn't anticipate or account for the situation where everyone in the President's circle is "in on it."
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