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re: ICE Safety vs 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms

Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
34934 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:41 pm to
Google mn carry laws
Posted by Fanatics
Member since Nov 2025
425 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:42 pm to
You got the news wearing your Gavin Newsome kneepads sucking off walz then Frey. He had an obligation to exercise good judgement. CC permit is irrelevant once your impeding then fighting with cops, now your just resisting arrest with a deadly weapon. You should try it.
Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
446 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:42 pm to
// If disability benefits are involved, then I’m confident that you are taking advantage of them //

Hey, don't shoot me...I'm only the messenger. I don't write or approve laws, only enforce them through my active participation. Check please!!
Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
446 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:47 pm to
// Your dumbass self won’t believe it regardless of the story and I can’t wait for the “I’m super conservative but” shtick//

Do you really need to use "self" when using the term "your" in front of "dumbass"...isn't this implied?
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4673 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:47 pm to
What was he doing at the time, then?
Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
446 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:53 pm to
Have you ever heard the concept of "fruit of the poisonous tree"? You are assuming that the arrest was legal. Being fearful as an ICE agent because a non-threatening citizen is legally carrying a firearm is not reason for weapon confiscation. Citizens do have constitutional rights.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22713 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:53 pm to
The rules of engagement change every time. Plus carrying a legal weapon in the presence of armed law enforcement makes your actions up for interpretation and you may be perceived as a threat. Do you want to take that risk just because it’s your right to carry?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2369 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:56 pm to
He assaulted a federal officer, violating 18 usc 111, prior to the attempt to subdue him.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22713 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:58 pm to
ICE agents have more honor than you will ever
Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
446 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 3:59 pm to
//You got the news wearing your Gavin Newsome kneepads sucking off walz then Frey. He had an obligation to exercise good judgement. CC permit is irrelevant once your impeding then fighting with cops, now your just resisting arrest with a deadly weapon. You should try it.??


I'm very glad there are people like me & others that will advocate and stand up for our constitutional rights, not spineless individuals like you and others on this board that will cower when the government over-steps its boundaries, acts tyrannical, or refuses to hold itself accountable to the people. Stop being a worm and grow a pair.
Posted by Delupe
Member since Oct 2025
446 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:04 pm to
// ICE agents have more honor than you will ever//

You don't know me or them...your comment is pretty ignorant.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37860 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:08 pm to
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I’m sure concealed carry classes cover interaction with law enforcement

Yes, it does.

Regardless of what state you're in, you should NOT EVER resist law enforcement even if you STRONGLY feel they're in the wrong, and ESPECIALLY if you are armed, concealed or otherwise. That's just common fricking sense.

You're struggling against several federal agents attempting to detain you and suddenly a pistol appears within your reach, you're as good as dead.

You know, it's weird. I've been concealed carrying in multiple states for almost three decades and I've never been in a situation where I had the overwhelming urge to fight cops. I mean, i haven't even had a single negative interaction with cops. Why? Why is that? Have I transcended the human condition? Am I a god now??? My first commandment is to execute anyone who knows the name of all the Kartrashian sisters but can't tell you who the US fought in the Vietnam War. That's it, right?

Hell no. I'm a law abiding citizens, I'm respectful, I'm not unhinged and I'm not a moron. OK, maybe I'm a moron, but certainly not when it comes to interaction with law enforcement.

Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1993 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:10 pm to
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In the absence of an overt threat to ICE agents or trying to obstruct their duty performance, what justification do ICE have to disarm a legally armed citizens?


Why are you asking this question when there was in fact an overt threat?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23651 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:10 pm to
If your in that situation, it's probably best to not resist and tell the ICE officers that you are armed and keep your hands up and away from ur body.

Kinda common sense stuff that shouldn't need to be asked...
Posted by The1TrueTiger
Colorado Springs, Colorado
Member since Apr 2009
2671 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:12 pm to
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He assaulted a federal officer, violating 18 usc 111, prior to the attempt to subdue him.


I've seen giving the finger to be considered assault by some federal officers. How many time have we seen video of a verbal confrontation escalated by law enforcement to them taking the person down violently to the grown and the LEO then claims they were assaulted.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23651 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:12 pm to
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I'm very glad there are people like me & others that will advocate and stand up for our constitutional rights


A citizen doesn't have a constitutional right to resist law enforcement nor to pull a gun on law enforcement.
Your being intentionally stupid or maybe your just stupid. Personal responsibility goes a long ways.
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
South of I-10
Member since Aug 2012
1993 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:14 pm to
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Waltz dumbass actually said in his press conference that ice and border patrol aren't law enforcement.


That is some real dumbassery on their part, considering that ICE and BP’s reason for being is to enforce immigration laws.
Posted by Fanatics
Member since Nov 2025
425 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:22 pm to
Your such a cocksucker, in here carrying your leftist strawman arguments
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182002 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:23 pm to
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ICE tried to disarm him for no reason other than he was open carry


Did you miss the part of him fighting with them way before the shooting for no reason?
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2369 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 4:26 pm to
When the ice agent pushes the other protestor to the ground you cqn see the victim attempt to forcibly stop the ice agent. That is the felony I am talking about. That is not flipping off an ICE agent, it is assaulting an ICE agent. And judges have made clear with jan 6 defendants that attempting to aid someone is no defense.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 4:27 pm
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