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re: I was lied to about Nixon

Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:05 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:05 am to
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Not sure why the low t soy's on here downvoted my post. Nixon was extremely smart. Go watch some of his interviews on YouTube from the 80's and 90's in several of them he basically predicted the future bang on.


Nixon was VERY intelligenct, but had the social IQ of a slug. He was awkward and his solutions were often out of line.


He did some damage with his economic tinkering.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51414 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:09 am to
Nixon, brought us OSHA, used Justice Department to implement forced busing, price controls, EPA, and other federal agencies.

Carter kept on several of his agency heads, such as Schlesinger and Califano.

Didn't really appoint any conservative justices. We didn't get any conservative justices until O Connor and then Scalia.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:20 am to
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He could have contested the 1960 election that was probably stolen from him, but he left it alone because he thought it would tear the country apart. Takes a pretty big man to do that.


And he was right, it would tear the country apart. If only some more recent politicians had that same understanding.
Posted by Liberator
Ephesians 6:10-16
Member since Jul 2020
8472 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Everything I was told my whole life by this gov has been a lie.

Everything.


Hear ya. As of this post your assessment is in 100% unanimous agreement with 35 upvotes.

Sure seemed like Nam = Korea (with neither "war" objective as represented to the American people or world)

Q: How far back would everyone go on the systemic lie of the goobermint?

2001?
Nam?
Korea?
WW2?
WW1?
CW?
1776?

Did a scattered ragtag army of Gen. Washington actually take down the British Empire's American colony and force them into surrender?

OR

Did they merely allow a "new nation" in 1781 "Independence" in name, ruling behind the Curtain?

AND

What WAS 'The War of 1812' really about? Did we ever get a straight/reasonable explanation?

(The British military suddenly shows up, waltzes into DC and supposedly burns down the White House with little to no opposition?)

Anyhoo, it's not only the goob that hasn't played anything straight, it's the entire Institutional-Narrative Control Grid.



Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59995 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:29 am to
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He was setup by the IC.

Exactamundo.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
2984 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:35 am to
Look at the background of the Watergate burglar’s.
Then look up the resume of Bob Woodward before he became journalist.

Nixon looked Richard Helms in the eye, in the WH, and told him point blank he knew who was behind JFK. Helms just stared at him.

They were terrified he was going to reveal then what many know today.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:36 am to
Nixon was no bumbling idiot. But he was also knee deep in the stealing of documents and the attempted cover ups.

US President Richard Nixon ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Special Prosecutor Archibald Cox; Richardson refused and resigned effective immediately. Nixon then ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox; Ruckelshaus refused, and also resigned.


Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39495 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:36 am to
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His extreme paranoia is what did him in.


was he paranoid? Or was he dead tf on?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260611 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:37 am to
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was he paranoid?


Nixon was the poster child for neurosis
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42608 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:38 am to
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was he dead tf on?

yes
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44859 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Not sure why the low t soy's on here downvoted my post. Nixon was extremely smart. Go watch some of his interviews on YouTube from the 80's and 90's in several of them he basically predicted the future bang on. His paranoia and controlling nature did him in not his smarts which can't be questioned.


Has anyone here watched the 1969 Texas/Arkansas game? Famously, Nixon was at the game. Chris Schenkel had him in the booth for an interview at halftime and asked him what he thought would happen in the second half, and his prediction was absolutely spot on.

I know this isn't political, but it is another example of his intelligence.

Richard Nixon halftime interview
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
1620 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:41 am to
Found this t shirt in my dad’s dresser after he passed away
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67097 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:54 am to
Nixon was paranoid…because he WAS being followed, he WAS being wiretapped, and there WAS a conspiracy underfoot to remove him. He wasn’t delusional, he was RIGHT.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3207 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:55 am to
nailed it!
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 9:57 am to
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He did some good things, but his dishonesty, paranoia and lust for power did him in


This. Nixon was a good member of the GOP, but he and his crew seemed to play games and see what they could get away with. Their paranoia was incredible.

To the OP, anyone who told you Nixon was an idiot didn't know what they were talking about. But investigation of the Watergate break-in revealed major crimes, most notably campaign finance abuse (both illegal donations and misuse of funds) along with obstruction of Justice (bribing criminal defendants to deny White House involvement)

A little known political story reveals a lot about the mindset of Nixon and his cohorts. It involves the Alabama gubernatorial election of 1970.

Albert Brewer had become governor after the death of Gov. Lurleen Wallace. He was running against George Wallace in 1970. Of course, back then, the GOP barely existed in Alabama, so the Democratic Primary was the real election.

Nixon feared Wallace in the 1972 Presidential race, because Wallace might be attractive to conservative voters. He thought a Wallace loss in the governor's race would skuttle his political career.

So Nixon's crew contacted Brewer's campaign and offered them a secret donation of $400,000 (a lot of money in 1970) They set up a clandestine exchange, where a member of Brewer's campaign team went to a DC cafe and picked up a briefcase of cash, like something in a spy movie.

The cash was from Nixon's campaign funds, which was illegal. Somehow, news of the GOP donating to Brewer's campaign got out, ruining his chances in the Alabama election.

In theory, the $400,000 was one of the cleanest campaign donations ever. All Nixon wanted was a Brewer victory, with no strings attached. And Nixon's supporters probably would have approved
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:18 am to
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(The British military suddenly shows up, waltzes into DC and supposedly burns down the White House with little to no opposition?)


There is no mystery to that. Thomas Jefferson - who firmly believed the Constitution forbade the existence of a standing army - had reduced the US military drastically. He cut the army to just 3300 men, and left the Navy with just 7 frigates.

Most damaging, he fired a large section of experienced officers, who were members of the Federalist Party, and replaced them with inexperienced Democratic-Republicans.

When Madison sought a Declaration of War in 1812, the US military was in shambles, but he thought the State militia would carry the day. (The Federalist Party members in Congress voted against the war)

Turns out, when the Second Amendment says militia are necessary for the security of a free state, it means State, and not Nation. The militia defended their own states, and watched the Red Coats march on down to DC, which had no militia.

By 1814, the US military had recovered, and Madison was able to sign a peace treaty returning everything to status quo. Essentially a stalemate, although the US claims victory.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by bizeagle
Member since May 2020
1167 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:20 am to
quote:

Nixon had flaws, but he also had greatness. He could have contested the 1960 election that was probably stolen from him, but he left it alone because he thought it would tear the country apart. Takes a pretty big man to do that.

Yep, part of the problem is our national ignorance of truth & history. The Kennedy's were connected to mafia who rigged the 1960 election process in Illinois. Joe Kennedy, JFK's father, was an uber wealthy wannabe socialite who made big $'s as a bootlegger and opium trader/importer (mafia connection). High society held a dim view of the Kennedy's because of their tainted history. Plus, he was Roman Catholic in a political culture that was mostly Protestant. Joe wanted to establish the Kennedy family legacy through his sons (JFK, RFK, and idiot Teddy) and appear as a worthy elite. So, he bought his son's pathways into Harvard and later into elections.

Nixon was Eisenhower's VP and was aware of the election rigging in Illinois but did not contest it because of the huge scandal that it would generate. BTW, another filthy dirty politician was LBJ, who admitted to running a ballot stuffing operation in Texas to get elected as Senator. LBJ hated the Kennedy's but set it aside to be JFK's running mate, as he his power hunger outweighed his contempt for JFK (the mind of a typical Democrat) The more you learn about LBJ, the more disgusting you find that he was.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8656 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:37 am to
Here's an example of how different things were:

Everybody knew who Robert McNamara was
quote:

eighth United States secretary of defense from 1961 to 1968


I was flying out of Washington National and I glanced over and SOD McNamara was unaccompanied by body guards, personal assistants, etc. carrying his own bag, standing in line to check into his flight. WHILE he was Secretary of Defense and a damned important job at that time.

Nowadays the gubment (sic) high and not so high muckymucks travel in motorcades.

Heck twenty some years later Senator John Tower of Texas was accompanied by six underlings catching a flight from Houston to DC.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
1875 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Nixon might have been a criminal but he was far from a bumbling fool. He was sharp as a tack and very smart which is why people wonder how he got himself in the situation he did. His extreme paranoia is what did him in.


Bingo. Outside of Watergate he was easily one of our best presidents.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29096 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 10:50 am to
I like Nixon. His comments on the Bohemian Grove elites were hilarious. “Those San Francisco people are there and it’s just horrible. It’s the most faggy goddamn thing you can imagine.”
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