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re: I was in Paris last year (March) three things surprised me

Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16590 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 4:49 pm to
I actually visited the 12th and while you can see that this is where "the immigrants" live, I am sorry, I felt it was far more French than anything. Seemed to me to be full of Algerians with French snob attitudes, not recent Syrians arrivals.
Posted by JPinLondon
not in London (currently NW Ohio)
Member since Nov 2006
7858 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:16 pm to
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Oh and by the way JPinLondon, please re-read the thread. In no way was I teasing people who have not travelled all that much, those were other posters. Don't blame me for their posts please, thanks!

I did lazily bash them in my post, those who teased the "non-travelers". And my remark did look like I was bashing you in that regard. Which I wasn't. I accept your pointing that out.. it was my bad.
Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3777 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:22 pm to
I worked in the south of France, near Marseille, for 3 years. Close to 50 percent of the operators in the plant were Muslim, or at least had Muslim names. Never talked religion with them though.

I can promise you the Muslim population is quite large and the birth rate of Muslims is much higher than the the native French birth rate.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16590 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:22 pm to
Okay no prob, it happens.

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16590 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:24 pm to
ChEgrad.

Thanks for the insight. I was not in your area and of course you would know better, good info.

Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109735 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:27 pm to
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I worked in the south of France, near Marseille, for 3 years. Close to 50 percent of the operators in the plant were Muslim, or at least had Muslim names. Never talked religion with them though.

I can promise you the Muslim population is quite large and the birth rate of Muslims is much higher than the the native French birth rate.




Hasn't Marseille had a sizable muslim population for years? I don't think this is any sort of recent development, although I guess if any part of France is increasing in such population, it would make sense that it be happening there.
Posted by BamaFinland
Espoo, Finland
Member since Oct 2015
2587 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:28 pm to
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I was in Paris last year


For your next vacation I suggest Frankfurt or Malmo, Sweden.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
20061 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:28 pm to
Because the Muslims live in the cite, the banlieues. Tourists wouldn't see them. I used to live in France, Islam is a big problem.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Most of the muslims they have there are loyal because they come from France's colonies like Algeria. They are notJihadists.


Your problem is you don't have the first clue what constitutes jihad, as you simply conflate jihad as being terrorism. Nonetheless, ALL MUSLIMS IN THE WORLD are jihadists. Otherwise, they are non-Muslim apostates, which in Islam and unlike all the other religions of the world that Islam is morally equated with by loons like you, is supposed to be an automatic death penalty.

You're knowledge and therefore your naive perception is utterly incompetent. Thanks for your feedback, it is utterly useless as you are.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:34 pm to
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A lot of people want to see France, before they can't anymore...at least that's what everyone is saying...



Who...who is saying this.

I swear if someone started saying the South is like deleted scenes from Mississippi Burning you guys would flip your shite but when it comes to spouting ignorant bullshite about places you've never been you're all in.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:37 pm to
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Hasn't Marseille had a sizable muslim population for years?
It has for a long time. Not specifically singling out Muslims, but the town has kind of been on the downswing for a while, too. It was kinda ghetto when I visited. Still charming and beautiful, but high unemployment and high crime (for Europe).
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:39 pm to
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Hasn't Marseille had a sizable muslim population for years?


Yes. Once the French colonial establishment in northern Africa sort of fell through, Marseille's economy tanked.

It's France's Detroit. I was supposed to move there in April for a project. Looks like I've been postponed until November, so I'm looking forward to missing the Pittsburgh winter.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:40 pm to
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Drove through Paris a few months ago on my way to Oklahoma


You passed right in front of the big Cambell soup plant too.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
46447 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:42 pm to
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It is great seeing them arguing with people who live in these places or have traveled extensively.



Aren't there some quotes from actual citizens saying it's an issue?
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:42 pm to
So apparently you are a totalitarian deep down below the surface who loves big overpowering government and government overregulation. Okay.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
56982 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:49 pm to
you are correct.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42267 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 5:59 pm to
Go to St Denis, La Courneuve, or Mantes-la-Jolie and hang out at night if you are looking for Parisian style Islam. It's a fun place. Also, as someone who was attacked by a Muslim in Marseille, I can personally attest that it was, at the time, a real shite hole (it was in 1988 to be fair so it was in my distant past). I have gone to France regularly for the past 20 years and Islam is easily found and avoided but you better educate yourself before going to the spots I listed after dark.
Posted by 56lsu
jackson mich
Member since Dec 2005
7864 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 6:49 pm to
you need to remember that most on this board are bound at the butt to trump and don't have a clue how the world is outside of their little patch of grass
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23914 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 6:51 pm to
Eurocat fitting in with the Eurotrash -- yeah, no big surprise there.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 5/7/17 at 7:23 pm to
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Long term competition, long term threat to the petro-dollar, long term threat to the US being in charge of the world.

I'd rather Europe peaceful, but broken up into 20 different economies and currencies to ensure there will never be a rival chef in the west.


I actually agree with you on the Euro, but disagree entirely with this take.

I simply don't believe that a marriage of monetary policy without fiscal policy is sustainable or ideal. The entire history of currencies and central banking is on my side. I think the current half-in, half-out set up is unsustainable and will cause more problems long-term than it will solve. We're already seeing the EUR fray at the periphery (literally), and those economies have had their largest and most powerful tool for combating unemployment and sovereign debt snatched away from them, and they can't do anything about it.

It will cause more social instability, radical politics, and continued friction as long as the current set up remains. Because fiscal union is, for all practical purposes (it's hard enough keeping Catalonia and Basque Country in Spain or Belgium from splitting into two) impossible, they need to be split again.

The Euro will never be a serious player as the foreign reserve currency and petro-dollar vis a vis the dollar.
This post was edited on 5/7/17 at 7:29 pm
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