re: I thought MAGA was losing support because of the Iran conflict? Now they are all neocons?

I don’t know the answer to your question but while May primaries may normally get more than a 12% turnout, it’s probably less than 25% on average, big money spent or not. I read where a couple of local precincts of 400-500 had ~10%. It is kind of crazy in a sad, apathetic way.

What’s hilarious is the things me and the AF wing are demanding are the same things that were on the campaign signs at Trump rallies in 2024.

Apparently because I have the audacity to actually demand they are put into policy instead of just seeing them on a Truth Social post and then ignored makes me the enemy somehow.

But as was made clear MAGA is Trump. Trump retires in two years.

AF doesn’t.

It’ll be new maga Rubio vs AF JD Vance in 2027/2028.

Without CK to drive votes to him I’m not at all sure who wins that but I know for damn sure by 2032 the people currently cheerleading this new MAGA stuff won’t have the votes to run the party anymore.

Whether AF can keep the GOPe donor class at bay better than Trump did remains to be seen.

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Since you can’t even grasp the nationwide impact of totally backing out of many of your campaign promises to the not stronghold of your voter base. Just a complete moron.

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You and tards like you think you are Trump's voter base.

You aren't. Sorry.

If you were, Massie would have won, and Trump-endorsed republican primary candidates wouldn't have gone 37-0 this week.

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Massie is a libertarian, not Republican. He was a RINO who only ran as a "R" so he could win

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Replace libertarian with populist and the exact same argument could be made against Trump.

I supported him because he ran as a populist in fact just like much of the MAGA base.

The GOP is a coalition party:
-traditional conservatives
-conservative libertarians
-GOPe
-populists (now split AF vs MAGA)

All of those factions are GOP whether you like them or not.

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This is not complicated.

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Democrats have had complete control of everything since Obama's first term and not a fricking peep about Epstein until Trump comes around.

And now, after a 4 year term of another piece of shite Democrat in Biden of not a single peep about Epstein, NOWWWWW Epstein is a huge thing because the media tells you it is.

Trump can release 4000+ documents that would never have seen the light of day, something that Democrats have failed to do despite having the same platform that Trump has currently, yet did NOTHING.

This isn't complicated.

I was his base until he backed out of 90% of his campaign promises. Trannies and borders check. Everything else is a mess.

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His entire foreign policy persona/schtick was trashing neocons, no new wars, no middle east wars, etc. You cant backpedal from that now, and it's why the Tuckers, MTGs, libertarians, and anti-war left that may have supported him have turned. But, maybe he has made up for it in boomer support, IDK.

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I'll copy and paste my respose to Tboy with regard to the nonsensical muh "neocon" label for Trump and his supporters:

"[b]When did Trump say he would NEVER, under any circumstances, use military force against our enemies? Provide a link please.

You fricking tards acting like this is Cheney/Bush 2.0 and we're in some Iraq/Afghanistan decade plus long war (based on complete lies) are fricking ridiculous.... We've been in Iran for 3 months with no troops on the ground. If we're still there a year from now, then you crybaby muh "neo-con" dipshits that have been crying about it since the first second of it will have a legitimate gripe..."

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If you said two years ago Rubio would be SOS and we'd be at war with Iran, I'd bet the majority of this board would have been against Rubio and 99% of this board would have laughed at the Iran part.

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Trump is doing the predictble thing that second-term presidents do when they turn more towards foreign policy, because they're looking for legacy projects and you're more likely to be able to do what you want when it comes to foreign policy and not getting your ideas shot down. But Trump is taking it to a new level.

There was a stretch in late 2005 and early 2026 when we bombed three differerent continents in two months (South America, Africa, Asia). You'd probably have to go back to World War II to tie that record lol.

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So now he’s losing the young voters because they turn out to vote for Gallrein?

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The younger voters did not vote for Gallrein.

They voted for Massie 81.5-18.5.

Trump wanted Gallrein. If he held the younger voters they wouldn’t have broken that way.

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Trump’s base is unchanged or slightly stronger based on 37-0 nation wide.

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With his core group of older GOP voters? Absolutely.

That’s really helpful for winning GOP primaries. Does it win general elections? TBD.

His approval rating outside of that group has cratered.

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As of mid-May 2026, President Donald Trump’s overall job approval rating is underwater, typically in the mid-to-high 30s approve (around 35-40%) with 55-65% disapproving, for a net rating of roughly -20

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NYT/Siena (May 11-15, 2026, registered voters):
• 18-29: 19% approve, 76% disapprove (net -57)
• 30-44: 29% approve, 66% disapprove (net -37)
• 45-64: 45% approve, 51% disapprove (net -6)
• 65+: 43% approve, 53% disapprove (net -10)
• Overall: 37% approve, 59% disapprove.

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The top 3 people making the MOST peeps about Epstein prior to the 2024 election were Kash Patel, Dan Bongino, and JD Vance.

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