re: I thought MAGA was losing support because of the Iran conflict? Now they are all neocons?

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you all have been screaming Trump is losing MAGA because of the Iran war

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When did I say that? Even once?

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NYT/Siena

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Get out of here with that trash.

Even Rich Baris missed badly. Real bad. It might ruin him.

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One thread. I just would like ONE frickING THREAD where you retards don't bring up AIPAC, Israel, or Jews.

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I didn’t bring it up. Dan Bongino brought it up and your smooth brained brethren used his words as evidence for the lack of fracture within MAGA despite Bongino in that same clip kicking people out

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One thread. I just would like ONE frickING THREAD where you retards don't bring up AIPAC, Israel, or Jews

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That’s not unreasonable, and there should be a tacit understanding that those three are often wrongly conflated. I don’t think it’s retarded to bring it up where it is merited. I believe wholeheartedly that AIPAC should be on FARA.

While Israel has significant influence via AIPAC and a few Jewish billionaires, the influence of about 5 other (industrial) lobbies is IMO much greater and definitely has both overt and covert nefarious intentions, and it doesn’t get nearly the attention it should.

With not even a deep dive, you can easily track the 10’s if not hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and lobbyist monies and how it influences legislation. There are subsidies, curious deregulations & outright ridiculous exemptions that heavily favor the pharma, energy, & defense contractor sectors in just about every major bill. The average taxpayer should be livid that those companies get free steak and we pay for it. Podcasters should spend much more time than they do on these.

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but why would MAGA be screaming if it was someone like Biden when MAGA doesn't support the Iran war?

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I don't really understand this question.

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That is undeniable regardless of your stance.

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O.k., I'm sure that's true. I don't generally pay attention to what mindless populists claim, especially about something like this.

Because here's the thing...they might not be wrong. No one will know until November.

12% or 15% or 9% of registered party voters turning out for a primary election has virtually nothing to do with what will happen in a general election.

Literally as many as 85% of MAGA voters could have checked out on Trump and you might not know it from Tuesday's results.

I'm not saying that's the case, because I don't know. Neither do you, neither does anyone else yet.

Here's what I do know, for a fact. I spent six and a half years here arguing with posters who were the most sissy isolationists on the planet, because Huckster Carlson told them to have that opinion.

It was near insufferable. "You want the US to intervene, why don't you go enlist?" "When are you leaving for transport?" "Which of your kids are you willing to send to die for another country?"

For six and a half years.

During the campaign Trump noticed that Huckster had brainwashed the cult and he campaigned on "No new wars."

It was obvious then—just going by his foreign policy decisions during his first term—that he didn't mean any of that, he just knew the base wanted to hear it. If he thought we needed a war, of course he would engage in one. I told the sissies up in here, repeatedly , they just downvoted and went about their day fixing the General Lee's carburetor that was blocked up in the trailer yard.

Then Trump used the US military to basically kidnap the president of a sovereign nation, and overnight—literally OVERNIGHT—about 65% of the posters who had spent the last six years arguing tooth and nail for isolationism were cheering, like they'd never held any other opinion.

It was the most amazing thing I have ever seen. We're talking about the same people who literally claimed that it was obvious that Joe Biden was "trying to start WWIII for profit" just because he said in 2022 that he would use force to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Just because he SAID that.

Now those people are supporting the military intervention in Iran. BTW, I also support the military intervention in Iran. I always have supported intervention and American hegemony, because I believe it's good for America. Not just because Trump did it, which is the difference between these people and myself.

So this is what I have noticed, starting with Trump's dialogue on acquiring Greenland and the Venezuela operation: I see fewer people here bitching about these interventions than I did at first. At first it felt like a substantial chunk of posters were still objecting on philosophical grounds. Maybe 35%.

Now it feels like very few posters are objecting based on philosophical grounds. Maybe 5%. There are more than 5% of the posters objecting, but only because of tactical concerns.

So where did that 30% go? Did they change their minds? Maybe some of them...the cult is strong. Do they just not post about it anymore? Or did they check out altogether in disgust? And if so, did they check out of just this board, or did they check out of politics altogether, realizing that the guy they thought was an "outsider" who was going to "drain the swamp" wasn't, and isn't.

I don't know and like I said earlier, you don't either. No one does yet.

The thing that the cult doesn't admit is that it still only makes up a certain percentage of Republican voters, and it's not a majority.

What an idiot you are. The numbers are the numbers.