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re: I reject the idea that young adults/millennials “have it harder” than boomers at that age

Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:01 pm to
Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
2257 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:01 pm to
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How much was your smartphone bill in the 70s/80s? And don’t tell me that’s a luxury because it’s now a necessity. Society functions on them.

bullshite necessity. It's a luxury, same as lattés and massages. Man up!
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8218 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:03 pm to
Life is a grind. You work where you can and if you’re not satisfied you keep looking for a better job. You need to realize a very SMALL amount of people become rich and even a SMALLER amount become rich quick.

My dad used to tell me anyone can become a millionaire if they were willing to sacrifice everything to do so. Work two full time jobs and live a minimalist life for 40 years and you will likely be a millionaire, but the majority of your life will be a miserable existence. The choice you have to make is happiness vs wealth. If you’re lucky to get both congratulations, you are in a very select club.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:04 pm to
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Lol at both of these. Those millennials aren't forced to accept 2 year unpaid internships. If someone offers you a shite deal you walk away.



So walk away, get no experience, and then cross your fingers that someone else hires you when you have no experience? That's not a recipe for success today. Unfortunately, the competition for good jobs means that somebody out there is willing to work for nothing to get trained, probably because daddy is paying rent. Or they live with a significant other. Etc.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63442 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:11 pm to
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You can’t start a business without capital and runway to absorb losing money for a while
Thats why “the rich” are so awesome!

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I can’t build up that capital and runway without working
No one said it alll had to be your capital. The work is required though. But that’s always the case.

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You see where this is going
Absolutely.

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I have no savings and live paycheck to paycheck because I only could land a part time job, and that’s about all it will pay for.
Iwas in a similar boat. I had an engineering job that paid pretty ok. But being debt averse, I still couldn’t afford a house comfortably. (Sound familiar?). But I got creative. Found a niche. Sold a bit of work on he side moonlighting, and worked like hell to learn how to tell my story, and meet others that could/would help.

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What I would do with a little capital is invest in income properties. I would buy worn down duplexes and fix them up, live in one side and rent the other
Meh. Too many people doing this. If you want to do your own gig, do something unique.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63442 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Often, your choice is a shite deal or no deal at all.
Ok. Maybe. I did take a job that way once. Truck was about to get repo’ed. But I didn’t stay long. It’s a choice to stay in the sh*t deal or keep looking.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:14 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:13 pm to
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Every one of these is optional.


Oh, ok. In that sense I guess shelter and clothes are optional too.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63442 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:15 pm to
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Often, your choice is a shite deal or no deal at all.
Silly. Home ownership is up. But it’s almost always far cheaper to rent. Especially if you’re cash strapped. Been there done that. If you look at he chart above clothing is actually cheaper today. So... ya know.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17860 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:16 pm to
Damn dude, you seem to be really triggered by the idea of personal accountability... lol

It’s called growing up. Really not that difficult.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:17 pm to
The bottom line is the average income adjusted for inflation hasn’t really changed since the 70’s while costs have at least doubled with less opportunity

Anyone who thinks gen x’ers and true millennials have it easier or the same as boomers are retarded
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63442 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:17 pm to
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You work where you can and if you’re not satisfied you keep looking for a better job. You need to realize a very SMALL amount of people become rich and even a SMALLER amount become rich quick
And almost no one gets rich working a salaried 9-5 job.

And they shouldn’t expect to. There’s no risk in being an employee. It’s cushy.

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Work two full time jobs and live a minimalist life for 40 years and you will likely be a millionaire,
Doesnt take that long.

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but the majority of your life will be a miserable existence.
Nah. Some of my happiest days was working through college and starting my business. Both we’re times of tremendous efforts. But not all work is miserable.

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The choice you have to make is happiness vs wealth.
Not when you choose your career wisely and according to your strengths.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63442 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:23 pm to
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The bottom line is the average income adjusted for inflation hasn’t really changed since the 70’s
When did being “average” equal being successful?

This is the real problem. Too many think they can be successful while being no better than mediocre.

Maybe it’s the result of “everyone’s a winner here’s your trophy” generation?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:25 pm to
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I just want to thank all the millennials posting in this thread and proving the point I made earlier, namely....

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Trying to get a millennial to accept anything is their fault is like trying to divide by 0.




Seriously. They limit themselves by a "I'm too good for X" attitude and wonder why they have no money and a bunch of student loan debt.
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
8218 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:27 pm to
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And almost no one gets rich working a salaried 9-5 job.

And they should expect to. There’s no risk in being an employee. It’s cushy.


Agreed, but people in here are acting like they should be making bank by age 30. It doesn’t work like that for the vast majority of people. I went the 9-5 route with little risk and plenty of time for family and friends. I didn’t get a house till the age of 34. But now I well off, not rich by any means, but I have enough and I’m happy. This is the path most people’s parents followed. It just takes time and not being an irresponsible idiot.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
60933 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:30 pm to
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When did being “average” equal being successful?


What are you talking about? I’m not speaking or success, I’m speaking of relative means of living between two generations.

Boomers had it easier - same adjusted income at half the cost.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8645 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:32 pm to
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When did being “average” equal being successful?

This is the real problem. Too many think they can be successful while being no better than mediocre.

Maybe it’s the result of “everyone’s a winner here’s your trophy” generation?


You're twisting the argument.

No one said that being average entitles one to success.

But on the whole, considering the whole macro system, every single piece of objective data points to Millennials having less economic opportunity than their parents. That isn't debatable.

Conservatives, of which I consider myself one, can understand the macroeconomic conditions and policies that have made it so and pull certain levers to adjust those conditions, or we can call them snowflakes and the "trophy generation" and watch as radical zealots and demagogues like Ocasio-Cortez keep getting elected to office because they are tapping into a legitimate beef that a large chunk of the voting population has with the system.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:34 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70518 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:34 pm to
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ork two full time jobs and live a minimalist life for 40 years and you will likely be a millionaire,


My whole problem is I can’t find ONE full time job! How am I supposed to get two of them!!!?

I don’t even care to be wealthy. I just want to be able to afford a little 2br house with a small backyard for a dog in a neighborhood where I’m unlikely to be murdered so I can hang out with my friends and cook and play music. That’s about it. I had that 4 years ago, but like an idiot, I gave it up to go to law school and get married, thinking that might improve my situation. Now I’m broke and divorced and dreaming of the life I used to have like it’s some unattainable lifestyle.
This post was edited on 3/30/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19572 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:34 pm to
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but I can’t get a job working for someone else without already having five years experience



And this is where your entire argument fails. This is simply a lie and you can get work in construction and trades with zero experience. They always need laborers and it's hard to find reliable ones these days. If you show initiative and are reliable they will OJT your arse. Companies are paying people to go to electrician school at night, while they are paying you your day's wages at work. You can become a fully qualified and licensed electrician with no capital and you can earn a damned good living which you can turn into savings for future ventures.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:38 pm to
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1 3 5 |—|—| 2 4 R Is a mystery to most kids today. 1 3 |—|—| 2 4 R Was enough to cover the 1/4 sufficiently in those days.



The youths don’t know how to drive stick is quite an interesting argument lmao. In 06 manual was like 45% of vehicles being sold now in 2018 its 2%. Its a really solid identifier of an older individual as they lose grip with todays world.

It’s like if you are trying to solve an equation and someone gives you an abacus in 2019. You should laugh at that person expecting you to use the abacus, and pull out your phone and use the calculator.

Nowadays manuals are for shits n giggles, Kinda like using VCRs.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70518 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:40 pm to
That’s one of my side hustles, lol
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 3/30/19 at 1:42 pm to
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My whole problem is I can’t find ONE full time job! How am I supposed to get two of them!!!?


MOVE !!
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