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I now understand why there are dictatorships and why they are necessary
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:32 am
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Please read the captions under all the pictures.
Realize there are people that exist that are fascinated by this sort of subject and are intensely interested about every caption under these pictures.
Now here’s the kicker…..these types of people are entitled to…..VOTE.
Now I understand why dictators don’t allow voting. It’s not because they are power hungry. It’s because they realize a vast portion of their society are too fricking stupid to be allowed to vote. People like this should not be allowed to make a decision about anything!
Please read the captions under all the pictures.
Realize there are people that exist that are fascinated by this sort of subject and are intensely interested about every caption under these pictures.
Now here’s the kicker…..these types of people are entitled to…..VOTE.
Now I understand why dictators don’t allow voting. It’s not because they are power hungry. It’s because they realize a vast portion of their society are too fricking stupid to be allowed to vote. People like this should not be allowed to make a decision about anything!
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Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:37 am to Geekboy
I guess "Benifer" is a thing again...
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:39 am to Geekboy
If only male landowners could vote in this country we would be a beacon of success. Women are too emotional and you should only be able to vote if you have a stake in this country. When the have nots were given the opportunity to keep voting for that gravy train we doomed ourselves
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:48 am to Geekboy
I’m gonna make “joint at the hip” my new catchphrase.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 8:51 am to Geekboy
The Founders loathed and feared Democracy, per your OP. They say that the ideal is a "Benevolent Dictator". Let's hope Jesus fills that position, in the near future.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:02 am to Geekboy
So this is your way of saying, you think the US should be ruled by a dictator?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:07 am to Geekboy
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. With the progressives mindset in schools teaching corrupt values we may get one but it won’t be what they are thinking it’ll be
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:18 am to sta4ever
quote:
you think the US should be ruled by a dictator?
The absolutely best form of government that can possibly work in this human world is a benevolent dictator.
But since we have no control over who the successor to that benevolent dictator might sometime be - we must avoid the siren's song of going the dictator route.
Therefore, the second best form of government is what our founders so laboriously pounded out in the form of our constitution.
The constitution is not perfect - which is why it is preambled with = "to form a more perfect union" by providing an amendment process whereby we can continually apply our current vision of 'perfection' into our governing document.
Note even here the objective is 'perfection' - a state beyond human achievement - only the responsibility to try for something closer to the then current vision of perfection.
BUT - and here is the big failure - As Adams reminded us - even that constitution is only workable for a 'moral and religious' population.
For a population that rejects morality and religion, then a dictatorship is what they will eventually devolve into selecting - while each segment tries to out-lie - and out-steal - and out corrupt - it's opposite faction.
We are seeing that end in our sights right now.
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 9:21 am
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:29 am to bayoudude
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If only male landowners could vote in this country we would be a beacon of success.
Worked well for the first 50 years. Results started getting sketchy fast when women started voting. I'm convinced JFK never would have won if women weren't voting.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 9:44 am to bayoudude
Dictatorships are also unstable. Rome had serious issues with crazy Emperors. But having people with "skin in the game" as voters prevents the have nots from voting for "largesse from the Treasury".
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
Alexander Fraser Tytler
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
Alexander Fraser Tytler
This post was edited on 8/28/22 at 9:45 am
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:02 am to Geekboy
quote:
vast portion of their society are too fricking stupid to be allowed to vote. People like this should not be allowed to make a decision about anything!
Then the answer is qualified voting, not dictatorship.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:06 am to Geekboy
Its an easy fix….if you’re on welfare then you can’t vote. When you let lifelong “takers” have a vote, they’re just going to keep voting for whoever promises them the most free shite.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:08 am to Geekboy
quote:
It’s not because they are power hungry. It’s because they realize a vast portion of their society are too fricking stupid to be allowed
Holy crap.
You are a communist
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:10 am to Tiger Prawn
quote:Please outline the “easy” route to ratifying such an Amendment to the Constitution.
Its an easy fix….if you’re on welfare then you can’t vote.
TIA
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:31 am to Geekboy
I want TRUMP to be my dictator!
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:38 am to mtntiger
quote:
Then the answer is qualified voting, not dictatorship.
Who decides who is qualified to vote? A dictator?
Posted on 8/28/22 at 10:55 am to Geekboy
Our fathers warned us about this kind of shite, but nobody listened. So many people thought, "They were just too mean." What we didn't realize is they were mean, but because they loved us.
"This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you."
Something the modern bleeding heart liberal should have heard growing up.
"This is going to hurt me more than it hurts you."
Something the modern bleeding heart liberal should have heard growing up.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:04 am to ksayetiger
quote:
Holy crap. You are a communist
Or completely frustrated by what power hungry politicians and the leaches of society have done to this country.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 11:33 am to Geekboy
I must be missing the obvious on what the link has to do with dictatorships. But I am not wasting my time on Ben and Jennifer life.
Posted on 8/28/22 at 12:07 pm to Geekboy
I've been reading the federalist and anti-federalist papers. There is plenty of insight in there that you would never have a clue about with standard American education. Long story short-ish (still a wall of text, TLDR), many actually felt that the English model with a monarch, a house of lords and a house of commons was actually the most likely to produce good results. Knowing the context of the climate against King George they knew not to go down the path of monarchy.
Their solution was to bake in something similar with the executive, the senate and the house. Sadly, we suck and turned the Senate into the House of Commons part 2.
The constitutional convention is rather interesting as it was a correction based on the lived experiences of the states while the Articles of Confederation was active. The individual states ran things differently so they were able to use this information to identify the best and worst aspects. One of the things that Washington decried in his personal correspondence was annual elections. It was observed that where annual elections was apparent, corruption was obvious as vote buying was rampant. This is one of the mindsets that lead to the diversity in the way that officials are elected/selected and the duration of their terms.
As much as they loathed the monarch, they also did not care for pure democracy. Regardless of what the Democrats and the media says, we are not and never were intended to be a Democracy. Plain as day they knew the will of the masses needed to be tempered. In their own words they said as much.
So the one thing that is an unfortunate artifact of relatively frequent elections is that we have no ability to plan for the future. Hard pills today for a more prosperous tomorrow just doen't fly as whomever advocates such a path will not get re-elected. Of course it doesn't have to be this way, but it is this way nonetheless.
Their solution was to bake in something similar with the executive, the senate and the house. Sadly, we suck and turned the Senate into the House of Commons part 2.
The constitutional convention is rather interesting as it was a correction based on the lived experiences of the states while the Articles of Confederation was active. The individual states ran things differently so they were able to use this information to identify the best and worst aspects. One of the things that Washington decried in his personal correspondence was annual elections. It was observed that where annual elections was apparent, corruption was obvious as vote buying was rampant. This is one of the mindsets that lead to the diversity in the way that officials are elected/selected and the duration of their terms.
As much as they loathed the monarch, they also did not care for pure democracy. Regardless of what the Democrats and the media says, we are not and never were intended to be a Democracy. Plain as day they knew the will of the masses needed to be tempered. In their own words they said as much.
So the one thing that is an unfortunate artifact of relatively frequent elections is that we have no ability to plan for the future. Hard pills today for a more prosperous tomorrow just doen't fly as whomever advocates such a path will not get re-elected. Of course it doesn't have to be this way, but it is this way nonetheless.
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