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re: I guess my state, Florida, couldn't handle the winning.

Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
35740 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:01 pm to
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Should everyone just fall in line and not disagree with anything Trump does?

I’m a bit confused by the thinking on this from this board.


What does that have to do with this text on the first page of the proposal?

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providing that the Commissioner of Agriculture is the chief immigration officer
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38869 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:10 pm to
There's already the legal method via the H2A program. Why the need to resist Trump and strip Ron of his executive powers?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19024 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:29 pm to
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WTF are the GOP legislators thinking? Now, of all times, to be getting squishy on immigration?

Sounds like someone either owns a business, or has friends or relatives that own a business, that is dependent upon slave labor.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
73893 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 5:32 pm to
Your close. Maybe it's those that clean them!
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100285 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:10 pm to
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renters are kicked out by the busload, their returns will fall.


Florida has a ton of people wanting to move there. They’ll find new renters within a month
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
964 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:13 pm to


nobody would sign that big brother Database law.

LINK

DeSantis ordered the special session on Jan. 13 and called for intense immigration reform. He asked for lawmakers to pass bills that would launch a state deportation program, a statewide database of people who send money overseas, establish state charges for entering the country illegally, and deny bail to all undocumented people.
The governor also called for the criminal prosecution of any law enforcement officers or officials who refused to carry out his proposed changes, among other things.

It was the threat of arresting local cops that appeared to especially rub Perez and Senate President Ben Albritton the wrong way. Perez said Monday that DeSantis had “some good ideas,” but it is not up to him to call the shots on immigration.

“Sometimes leadership isn’t about being out in front of an issue,” Albritton added, rebuking DeSantis. “It’s about following the leader you trust. I trust President Trump.”

Albritton, a Republican, said DeSantis’ hopes of a remittance database was akin to “Big Brother” and that some of his requests may be outright unconstitutional. Perez indicated he will instead push through legislation that gives more access to federal immigration officials and not add to local cops’ burden.

“We do not need to duplicate the functions of U.S. Immigration and Customs and create a mini-me version of ICE,” Perez said.

It is not just DeSantis’ dreams of immigration reform that were dashed Monday. The GOP leaders also suggested he lose his position as the state’s top immigration enforcer. They proposed the role instead going to Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson—a Republican who endorsed Trump during the primaries and reportedly has a “frosty” relationship with DeSantis.

Perez accused DeSantis of being a “bully” to state lawmakers who publicly pushed back against his special session. He cited DeSantis’ team blasting out mass e-mails that displayed members’ personal cell phone numbers and encouraged constituents to nudge their lawmakers into supporting the session.

“Attacks on this body—attacks on all of you—are not acceptable,” Perez said in an address to lawmakers Monday. “This House will never be moved by threats. I will always have an open door and an open mind, but if someone tries to force me to choose sides—members, please know that I will always choose yours.”The governor also called for the criminal prosecution of any law enforcement officers or officials who refused to carry out his proposed changes, among other things.

It was the threat of arresting local cops that appeared to especially rub Perez and Senate President Ben Albritton the wrong way. Perez said Monday that DeSantis had “some good ideas,” but it is not up to him to call the shots on immigration.

“Sometimes leadership isn’t about being out in front of an issue,” Albritton added, rebuking DeSantis. “It’s about following the leader you trust. I trust President Trump.”

Albritton, a Republican, said DeSantis’ hopes of a remittance database was akin to “Big Brother” and that some of his requests may be outright unconstitutional. Perez indicated he will instead push through legislation that gives more access to federal immigration officials and not add to local cops’ burden.

“We do not need to duplicate the functions of U.S. Immigration and Customs and create a mini-me version of ICE,” Perez said.

It is not just DeSantis’ dreams of immigration reform that were dashed Monday. The GOP leaders also suggested he lose his position as the state’s top immigration enforcer. They proposed the role instead going to Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson—a Republican who endorsed Trump during the primaries and reportedly has a “frosty” relationship with DeSantis.

Perez accused DeSantis of being a “bully” to state lawmakers who publicly pushed back against his special session. He cited DeSantis’ team blasting out mass e-mails that displayed members’ personal cell phone numbers and encouraged constituents to nudge their lawmakers into supporting the session.

“Attacks on this body—attacks on all of you—are not acceptable,” Perez said in an address to lawmakers Monday. “This House will never be moved by threats. I will always have an open door and an open mind, but if someone tries to force me to choose sides—members, please know that I will always choose yours.”

Since lawmakers were together in Tallahassee thanks to DeSantis, they also took the opportunity to nearly-unanimously overturn a veto the governor made last session that nixed $57 million from the state’s operating budget. All 110 members of the Florida House rejected DeSantis’ veto and the only “no” vote in the 36-member Florida Senate was Blaise Ingoglia, a close ally to the governor.

Perez remarked that the DeSantis’ veto last summer was “at best, a misunderstanding of the importance of the appropriation or, at worst, an attempt to threaten the independence of our separate branch of government.”

State Sen. Randy Fine, a Republican, said DeSantis appeared to be a “flailing guy losing relevance,” the Miami Herald reported.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53625 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 7:14 pm to
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But what the frick is a GOP legislature even thinking about?
The Chamber of Commerce loves cheap labor


Yet with all the cheap labor prices in general continue to rise faster and steeper than wages.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20518 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:58 pm to
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We're going to backslide back to the days of Crist and Scott

Why do y'all keep electing him to the us senate i get not voting for a democrat, but he won his primary with almost 85%.
Posted by 850SaintsGator
Pensacola
Member since Sep 2021
2358 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:17 am to
This is an exact repudiation because of how DeSantis has used/abused/bullied the legislature for the past 6yrs. He has used appropriations to buy votes and once the bills are passed and signed, he then will renege on his promise and line item veto those projects. For 3 years, he used red meat issues to bolster his (failed) attempt to run for president but not giving the legislature opportunity on input- the bills were HIS and no respect given to the members.


He extended the call for a special session to address 4 things- none of which were emergent issues that couldn’t wait until our regular 60 day session starting in March - the presiding officers wrote a joint memo saying as much.

Trump weighed in and said the immigrantion part was important so we all figured the GOP legislature was going to fold snd get back in line under Ron.

Today, they opened snd closed the DeSantis special session and immediately opened a new special session (this drew an applause in the House) and addressed two issue- 1) a bill on immigration that mirrored Trump’s EO and 2) overrode a line item veto from last years appropriations where Ron has vetoed an appropriation that funded the House/Senate professional staff - and this is why DeSantis lost his mind- he now knows he lost his power grip

So no, the Florida Legislature isnt going moderate and no this isn’t a ploy to weaken immigration policy- this is about power being wrested from DeSsntis and adding back balance to our checks/balances


Also, side note ….pretty much 80% of what Anthony Sabatini says/does is full of shite
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 2:19 am
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5527 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 2:53 am to
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top immigration enforcer. They proposed the role instead going to Agriculture Commissioner Wilton Simpson


Am I the only one that sees this as a conflict of interest & insane?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38869 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 5:00 am to
Good to know
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
62558 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:35 am to
Sugar and citrus lobbies must not be happy.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27343 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 6:44 am to
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This will not happen. Florida is red and will be for awhile now. Two women democrats just converted to Republican and Florida gained two house seats


I think you severely underestimate how easily a politician can be bought. Especially the ones who were never able to make a real private sector living without being neck deep in politics.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
3194 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:00 am to
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I think you severely underestimate how easily a politician can be bought. Especially the ones who were never able to make a real private sector living without being neck deep in politics.


You are describing Desantis perfectly btw.
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
9550 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:13 am to
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It's probably the tourism industry screaming the loudest about U.S. immigration enforcement.


I suspect that the H1B2 program covers most of that under the seasonal nature of the tourism industry in Florida

The GOP carried the greater Miami area for the first time in many years. Large Cuban population there , and large Puerto Rican community in Orlando.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4712 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:43 am to
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So no, the Florida Legislature isnt going moderate and no this isn’t a ploy to weaken immigration policy- this is about power being wrested from DeSsntis and adding back balance to our checks/balances


Lmao. Horseshiite. These legislators just need to come out and say they support cheap, illegal immigrans rather than using passive aggressive statements that try to thread the needle of supporting Trump but dissing DeSantis.

If you think this is “checks and balances” you’re an idiot.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154510 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:08 am to
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You are describing Desantis perfectly btw.


Link?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16877 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:12 am to
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Link?


It's hard to link when you let others do your thinking for you.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93124 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:13 am to
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Link?


Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162309 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:38 am to
Can a Ron Bro Floridian break this all down in a summary explanation, por favor?

Florida Legislature rebukes DeSantis, calls its own special session on immigration
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