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Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:16 pm to antibarner
1) they want it there to block Trump just as much as the Dems do (if not moreso)
2) they are afraid of what the Dems would do if they had that power
3) Grassley would never support it (nor would other old guard)
2) they are afraid of what the Dems would do if they had that power
3) Grassley would never support it (nor would other old guard)
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:21 pm to antibarner
No, stupid. You want to give the democrats an out by going nuclear. There is no reason to give them an endpoint they are hoping to achieve. The republicans are winning this policy fight without having to go nuclear. That doesn’t mean the democrats won’t do it one day, and they probably will, but you don’t end the fight you are winning prematurely just to hand your opponent a long term win for a short term gain. That’s called winning a battle but losing the war.
The problem the republicans have is with weak people like you who aren’t willing to fight based on policy. I’m perfectly comfortable with the government being closed for as long as it takes
The problem the republicans have is with weak people like you who aren’t willing to fight based on policy. I’m perfectly comfortable with the government being closed for as long as it takes
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:27 pm to Bourre
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Democrats are hoping Thune goes nuclear. This would open the door for them to push shite through once they return to power
Going to happen anyway.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
Trump is wrong.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:34 pm to Bourre
The Dems gaining any power back is a joke and they’ve done it all on by themselves.
How bout frick what the Dems may do put em in their frickin place rinos and conservatives have no frickin guts
How bout frick what the Dems may do put em in their frickin place rinos and conservatives have no frickin guts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:38 pm to Bourre
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Democrats are hoping Thune goes nuclear. This would open the door for them to push shite through once they return to power
Open the door?
The door has been ripped from it's hinges and lit on fire for about 4 years now.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:40 pm to Bourre
They’ll do that anyway. Maybe it would be an incentive for the worthless GOP to stop retiring and fight. Of course, that assumes they want to win.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:47 pm to antibarner
Pubs for a long time have played not to lose while the Left says frick it and plays to win.
The Dems don’t worry about “what Pubs might do” or whether they offend any moderate to conservative voters.
It’s been a significant contributing factor to the country we find ourselves in today if you go back over these decades since Reagan left office with the Dem Party on life support at that time.
The Dems don’t worry about “what Pubs might do” or whether they offend any moderate to conservative voters.
It’s been a significant contributing factor to the country we find ourselves in today if you go back over these decades since Reagan left office with the Dem Party on life support at that time.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:53 pm to antibarner
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I don't understand why John Thune and the Senate GOP wont go nuclear
Because we will regret it later. Small progressive wishlist items that they wouldn’t rise to the level of going to the nuclear option over would then become routine.
What needs to happen are votes and subsequent Senate votes need to be scheduled for 6AM and 9:30 PM every day until these morons get tired of it and end the filibuster.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:55 pm to antibarner
Getting rid of the filibuster is short-sighted, ask Harry Reid, if you can.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:57 pm to antibarner
Even were they so bold, Trump probably would have a hard time hitting 50 on much, it would definitely smoke out a few more GOP roaches
Posted on 11/4/25 at 3:58 pm to antibarner
quote:Perhaps the corollary is IT WOULD BE HORRIBLE POLICY!
The reason given is they're afraid next time the Dems have control they'll run roughshod
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:07 pm to Bourre
quote:They've done it before. They will do it again. I love you GOP purists... "We don't want to open that door..."
Democrats are hoping Thune goes nuclear. This would open the door for them to push shite through once they return to power
Then the literal SECOND the dems take a house, they'll do it so fast it will make your fricking head spin.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:16 pm to antibarner
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:21 pm to Giantkiller
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They've done it before. They will do it again. I love you GOP purists... "We don't want to open that door..."
I’m registered No Party so not a “GOP purist”. I just don’t think the republicans are losing this shutdown fight so there’s no reason to give the democrats an out by going nuclear. There are 2 outcomes democrats want to achieve: more spending and/or the republicans go nuclear. There’s no reason to cave in either of those outcomes if you are winning
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:22 pm to Bourre
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I just don’t think the republicans are losing this shutdown fight so there’s no reason to give the democrats an out by going nuclear. There are 2 outcomes democrats want to achieve: more spending and/or the republicans go nuclear. There’s no reason to cave in either of those outcomes if you are winning
You are correct
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:25 pm to Giantkiller
quote:They haven't done it yet.
Then the literal SECOND the dems take a house, they'll do it so fast it will make your fricking head spin
Posted on 11/4/25 at 4:33 pm to antibarner
Removing the filibuster would be stupid and short sighted. Trump is wrong on this.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 7:46 am to Bourre
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I just don’t think the republicans are losing this shutdown fight so there’s no reason to give the democrats an out by going nuclear.
This isn't about the damn shutdown. It's about every other agenda item.
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