re: I am a conservative who believes the job of teaching is under paid

In Alabama, firemen and troopers have State funded insurance. Care to guess who has better, State-funded insurance? That's right, the teachers.

But, but that’s not pay man.

Teachers by and large overlook the big picture of what their total compensation package is.

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That's the problem with inner city, government run schools

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Trust me, there are kids (and parents) at the highly rated schools (and private schools) who fit this description, too. It's ironic, paying that much money to complain about your child's education being too much work.

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You are really good at complaining, but are you really good at solutions?

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Yes..

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You know, problem solving skills?

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Divest in gov ran school systems.

Give the money to local gov to use. That generally equals better over site and less money spent via the DEpt of Education.

Break up schools graduating 400 plus per year. Cap it off to 50 students... This allows smaller class rooms.

Some good stuff, and a lot of bullshite in the responses, as per usual when teaching is the subject. Wife has been a teacher for 15 years, FWIW.

Yes, benefits and time off are better than many jobs, but it’s not as much as people think. The 3 months off is really closer to 2 months. There are required workshops in the summer, every year. Most of the teachers I know, spend at least a week or two getting their classroom together in preparation for the start of the year.

She is at school at 7:30 every morning, school is out at 3:30. Then it is home, grading papers and inputting grades for at least 2 hours, most of the time 3 hours, and many times 4 hours or more. That’s a 10 hour day average, easy.

Teachers are also very subject to get volunteered to work concession stands, attend and/or help at functions of all kinds, chaperone proms, help with hospitality for basketball tournaments, etc. All after hours.

Then there are parent teacher meeting days, where she is at school until 8:30-9:00.

And sure math, English, etc. haven’t changed in 400 years, but how they are taught, the standards that are expected to be met, and the materials and information used to teach them changes with dismaying regularity.

Then you have special needs and behavioral problem children, that only seem to increase every year. Do you know that state requirements for these kids requires the teacher to follow individual plans for each special needs kid? Some of them have to have the material read to them. Some of them must be talked through each problem/question. Some must be given extra time to complete assignments. Some of them must have the number of problems/questions reduced, so they don’t get frustrated and violent. Some of them must have the problems/questions vetted, to better achieve the kids level of learning/understanding.

Then extensive reports must be written and compiled about each of these students, explaining how the teacher is employing all of these strategies to educate that one child.

Most people have no idea the amount of work teaching entails these days. And the thing that kills the good teachers souls and spirit is the fact that it is almost impossible to foster and challenge the exceptional kids, because so much time is spent on kids who have no business in a regular classroom to begin with.

Teachers are over paid and don’t do shite

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A teaching degree is one of, if not the easiest degrees one can obtain in college

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Ive got one and agree

Money is not the issue with education in the USA

Its crazy that teachers at top private schools don't even make any money. Requires a degree and make less than some student interns man. Its no wonder people don't wanna do it.

Do you know any public school teachers in la?

I do. Some I would say are good people, but at the end of the day even they admit they are just passing the buck along to the next level to deal with. Teachers are straight up passing failing students not to teach them more than once in this state.