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re: How would you resolve the Iran conflict?
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:02 pm to Marquesa
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:02 pm to Marquesa
Impeach Trump, remove him from office, and replace him with a president who doesn't completely have an addled brain.
Once refusing passage through the Strait of Hormuz became the New Normal, and once it became Trump and Bibi vs the Sane World, the war became unwinnable for the "good guys."
Once refusing passage through the Strait of Hormuz became the New Normal, and once it became Trump and Bibi vs the Sane World, the war became unwinnable for the "good guys."
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:04 pm to tigerlaw
Best post I’ve read on here in a while.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:14 pm to RollingwiththeTide
quote:If Isfahan is badly damaged and inoperable, their enriched and solidified uranium gas is not going to do them much good.
Let’s say Iran does agree to let us dig out that uranium.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:17 pm to Pragmatist2025
The problem is we don’t really know how badly damaged it is until people can go in and look at the site. We can tell a lot from Satellites and drone footage but there is no substitute for have boots and eyes on the ground actually looking at the site in person.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:25 pm to Marquesa
1. Provide notice to Israel that we will be drawing down foreign aid, gradually reduced to 0%. They started this war, they need to be encouraged it to end it responsibly and without our money.
2. Provide notice to Iran that we will be withdrawing from their airspace, provided they submit to regular inspections by the IAEA.
3. Negotiate with the Arab and gulf states independently to ensure regional stability.
4. Renegotiate the nuclear deal with Iran with minimal presence or input from Israel.
2. Provide notice to Iran that we will be withdrawing from their airspace, provided they submit to regular inspections by the IAEA.
3. Negotiate with the Arab and gulf states independently to ensure regional stability.
4. Renegotiate the nuclear deal with Iran with minimal presence or input from Israel.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:27 pm to Marquesa
First of all, Trump really fricked up by not following through with his original threats. Then he fricked up even worse when he didn't follow through the second time. After that Iran knew he was bluffing and wouldn't do shite, no matter how many times he threatened this or that - we lost all leverage. After about the third time, Trump's own supporters were laughing saying he won't do shite. We're on about a dozen threats not followed through now and IRGC said weeks ago that they will no longer be negotiating with the USA. For whatever reason Trump keeps pretending like they're still at the table.
I would do pretty much the opposite of this. I would've given them our original list of demands with zero concessions, (not through Pakistan either) and told them to accept or face consequences. Each time they reject my demands I take out a bridge, starting with the least important and working my way to the heart of Tehran and their most important.
If they continue to reject my demands after that, I knock out the power somewhere rural. Then somewhere a little less rural. Then a small city. That eventually escalates to the heart of Tehran if they keep refusing.
The entire time this is ongoing I'm blockading Iran like we currently are, and beefing up air defenses around neighboring countries' oil production. I'm evacuating my bases within striking distance and moving those assets to help protect the rest of oil/LNG production in the neighboring countries that have pitched in against Iran. I'm making it apparent that my bases are now just empty buildings, Iran can attack them all they want but it'll be a waste of missiles that are now in shorter and shorter supply. I'm bringing in every missile destroyer, littoral combat ship, cruiser, frigate, anything that can shoot down a missile or drone that can be deployed and basing them on the other side of the Strait creating a wall of defensive fire.
Trump fricked up and threatened it all at once with "Bridge and Power Plant Day" which he never intended to go through with because it's a big undertaking and would lead to humanitarian crises that made us look like the bad guys. He knew the images would be all over the news and we'd essentially be committing genocide against innocent civilians. If he would've just done it step by step we'd be giving Iran the chance to come to the table after each one, and it wouldn't be so widely condemned or so much destruction at once.
I would do pretty much the opposite of this. I would've given them our original list of demands with zero concessions, (not through Pakistan either) and told them to accept or face consequences. Each time they reject my demands I take out a bridge, starting with the least important and working my way to the heart of Tehran and their most important.
If they continue to reject my demands after that, I knock out the power somewhere rural. Then somewhere a little less rural. Then a small city. That eventually escalates to the heart of Tehran if they keep refusing.
The entire time this is ongoing I'm blockading Iran like we currently are, and beefing up air defenses around neighboring countries' oil production. I'm evacuating my bases within striking distance and moving those assets to help protect the rest of oil/LNG production in the neighboring countries that have pitched in against Iran. I'm making it apparent that my bases are now just empty buildings, Iran can attack them all they want but it'll be a waste of missiles that are now in shorter and shorter supply. I'm bringing in every missile destroyer, littoral combat ship, cruiser, frigate, anything that can shoot down a missile or drone that can be deployed and basing them on the other side of the Strait creating a wall of defensive fire.
Trump fricked up and threatened it all at once with "Bridge and Power Plant Day" which he never intended to go through with because it's a big undertaking and would lead to humanitarian crises that made us look like the bad guys. He knew the images would be all over the news and we'd essentially be committing genocide against innocent civilians. If he would've just done it step by step we'd be giving Iran the chance to come to the table after each one, and it wouldn't be so widely condemned or so much destruction at once.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:30 pm to RazorBroncs
Once upon a time, there was a country that refused to stop messing around. Even after we dropped an atomic bomb, they wouldn't STFU. So, we dropped a second one.
It's not like we don't have a precedence to stop people who won't stop. We just don't have the stomach for it anymore.
It's not like we don't have a precedence to stop people who won't stop. We just don't have the stomach for it anymore.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:38 pm to Wareagle1990
quote:This was happening in 2018.
submit to regular inspections by the IAEA
quote:This could have happened in 2018.
Renegotiate the nuclear deal with Iran
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:40 pm to Marquesa
As of now, and considering where we are tonight, I'd say turn the Israelis loose.
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:47 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
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As of now, and considering where we are tonight, I'd say turn the Israelis loose.
As long as we get out of it and don’t provide any military or economic assistance to Israel, I really don’t give a flying frick what they do. However, they are so dependent on us and our goodwill that they will actively seek to entangle us in their conflicts at every turn. They need to be told to grow up and fight their own battles. That starts with cutting aid - same thing applies to Ukraine.
This post was edited on 6/7/26 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 6/7/26 at 9:48 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
Trump rushing right out to try and stop them from responding makes him look terribly weak. He won’t even get them to the table to cut a bad deal showing desperation like that. He needs to drop the hammer a few days just to reset everything. If he doesn’t he can hang up any kind of negated settlement. It’s not like anything they sign will be worth much anyway. If he is going to go then go all out and finish this regime off already so we can move on to the next problem to solve. Just lingering here like this begging radicals to negotiate is going nowhere.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:00 am to Marquesa
I’d invade Afghanistan and Iraq (they wouldn’t even see it coming) so we can have military bases that give us a platform for a long term war near the Iranian border.
I’d then launch amphibious assault ships to the Iranian coastline and have the greatest assault of all time that even makes DDay look like a picnic with the airborne dropped off in enemy territory. You might even call it THE GREATEST assault of all time.
I’d then launch amphibious assault ships to the Iranian coastline and have the greatest assault of all time that even makes DDay look like a picnic with the airborne dropped off in enemy territory. You might even call it THE GREATEST assault of all time.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 1:03 am
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:33 am to Gator5220
Very sensible approach in my opinion
Posted on 6/8/26 at 1:43 am to Marquesa
Simple: destroy the IRGC and all of its members
The biggest issue is that the GCC countries’ militaries are too weak to form any sort of military coalition. KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar all have some of the most inefficient and incompetent militaries in the world.
The biggest issue is that the GCC countries’ militaries are too weak to form any sort of military coalition. KSA, UAE, Kuwait and Qatar all have some of the most inefficient and incompetent militaries in the world.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 6:48 am to Marquesa
Surely there’s a way to forcefully open the Straight right? Combination of armed forces, technology to combat drones/mines, and insurance negotiations with companies stopping flow.
Once we do that, Iran loses leverage.
Once we do that, Iran loses leverage.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 7:48 am to LSUfan20005
Haven't seen a single post about how long someone is willing to stick with their genius plan.
How long to accomplish your goal?
What is the potential cost in lives and money?
What is the response of Iran likely to be and what will your plan be to deal with it?
What might be some unintended consequences and how will you deal with it.
What are the political costs?
This list could get to 100 questions or more.
Some version of " just bomb the frick out of them" isn't a plan.
A clueless bunch of keyboard warriors.
How long to accomplish your goal?
What is the potential cost in lives and money?
What is the response of Iran likely to be and what will your plan be to deal with it?
What might be some unintended consequences and how will you deal with it.
What are the political costs?
This list could get to 100 questions or more.
Some version of " just bomb the frick out of them" isn't a plan.
A clueless bunch of keyboard warriors.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:19 am to Tiger985
You're right unfortunately. Almost every proposed plan is a complete disaster. It's as if we haven't learned anything.
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