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re: How would the total elimination of federal income taxes change your life ?

Posted on 1/21/25 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 3:05 pm to
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there would be exceptions for food staples

Under the National Retail Sales Tax plan, there would be no exceptions, because 1) that's a slippery slope and how we got to our current Byzantine income tax deduction morass, and 2) families at/below the poverty line would be shielded from the cost of the tax expected to be paid by a family their size due to the prebate (see video embedded above).
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 3:12 pm to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 3:25 pm to
My wife no longer has to work the street.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 1/21/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Not if there’s mass refusal to pay. Our forefathers fought a revolution over some taxes on tea and stamps etc. I don’t think they could’ve ever imagined we’d one day have a fed that was this abusive

I don't disagree; however, we have to have a government.......although I'd prefer that it be much smaller and not so far-reaching. Still, the vast majority of the budget is entitlements. Everyone likes to say "yeah, frick taxes!" until they don't get their social security check and no doctor will see them because Medicare quit paying.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:33 pm to
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If enough people like you "sat it out", they'd just raise the tariffs to a point where you would ultimately pay.

But what about the ungodly amount of people that have been able to "sit out" paying income taxes, Because they got exempted or given credits on the low end?

Now everyone pays, based on what they consume. Seems a whole lot more revenue is generated when 335M people are participating
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Well, everything would cost more, BUT, more of my paycheck would go in the bank to help pay for everything that costs more.



Do you really believe this?

Since the 70's minimum wage has been a joke. They argue about5 it for years so that when it comes the y have increased your cost far more than the wage increase amounted to. We had no taxes in the 1800's and what happened. Robber Barrons rose to power at the expense of the middle class and lower class.

Viewed another way, say a town had 20K population and 10K were white and 10K were slaves. It is not like every white person had a slave but that a handful owned most of the slaves and most owned none. The Industrial Revolution turned us from agrarian to manufacturing which needed skilled labor. Imagine a Robber Barron owning your entire town and you could never get ahead. Wage slavery is still slavery.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:01 pm to
If that included allowing me to convert my 401k and IRA to Roth tax free, I’d be dancing in the street.
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:12 pm to
Without income tax, I could decide how my money is spent instead of some faceless bureaucrat or elected representative who wants to throw my money away on useless shite I oppose.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 5:18 pm to
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I'm not sure you will like no income tax as you think.
I'm sure you'd prefer no income tax at all for you, just as you currently do. Meanwhile others get slammed with progressive taxes
Posted by Kjnstkmn
Vermilion Parish
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 1/25/25 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:05 am to
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disproportionately harm the poor.
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jclem11
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you dumbfrick
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:29 am to
All those folks who declare no income and , thus, pay no income tax would howl like banshees. I'd be among those amused at their angst.

The gray economy would adapt, but be more of a target, and that, too, would be good.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22748 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:30 am to
I'd have 30 to 40K more per year. Not really that much.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25897 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:41 am to
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How would the total elimination of federal income taxes change your life ?


It would make my country more fair and just.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
16894 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:43 am to
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I'm sure you'd prefer no income tax at all for you, just as you currently do. Meanwhile others get slammed with progressive taxes


You can say the same for all the champions of relative tax breaks--and we have no shortage of those here.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44890 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:43 am to
Hell, my husband could retire in 2 years if we didn’t pay federal taxes and we would be extremely comfortable for the rest of our lives.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19336 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:53 am to
What kind of left wing, high stepping commie would downvote the idea that Americans keep their money and corrupt government gets less from our citizens?
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16173 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:54 am to
This will never happen.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:57 am to
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What kind of left wing, high stepping commie would downvote the idea that Americans keep their money and corrupt government gets less from our citizens?

They would not, ultimately, keep less money from citizens.

We would just be paying a lot more taxes in other areas.

That's why reduced spending is the only way to really permit Americans to keep more money, net.
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
4579 posts
Posted on 1/26/25 at 10:59 am to
The best part would be the criminals that we call the congress and the senate would cease to want to run.
Taxes are the base to them getting wealthy off the system
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