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re: How Many Posters Here Have Changed Their Opinion Regarding The Real Story Behind 9/11?

Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:00 am to
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8076 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:00 am to
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My problem with Iraq, is that it had nothing to do with a hunt for OBL. The war in Afghanistan was the correct call - they were, definitively, supporting AQ at the time and refused our demands to hand them over and shut down their bases. Of course, that shouldnt have turned into a nation building exercise, it should have remained strictly focused on eradication of the cells.


I concur.

Boots on the ground in Afghanistan was justified in the hunt for OBL. But to think we were going to occupy and change that region which has been at war for thousands of years over sectarian religious beefs is laughable. It's simply an unattainable goal unfortunately.

With regards to Iraq, we should have repelled Iraqi forces and weakened them such that future Kuwaiti invasion would not be possible in the future. Worst case you keep an occupying force and setup a base in Kuwait for future protection.

Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
5048 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:01 am to
I will be the first to admit I am biased in terms of my thoughts on Israel, as a Christian I believe they have a mandate from God to be there.

Religious beliefs aside, I dont understand why Israel gets singled out when it is pretty low on the totem pole of which countries need to be dealt with in terms of being unfair to our country. We do send Israel aid. We also send dozens of other countries aid, of which no one whines about it (except about Ukraine, who receives shitloads of aid)

Israel also backs the US on every UN voting issue, whatever we say they vote. When we voted against Ukraine a few weeks back and everyone else in the "West" voted against us, Israel voted with us. They at least respect the aid we give. I have no problem with arguments saying we shouldnt give any aid to begin with, thats fair game - but there are bigger and more deserving fish to fry first

From a cultural standpoint, I dont get it. Jews are net tax payers, and low crime. US Jews are also very different than Israeli Jews - who are all about faith, family, and country. Is that not the ideal we are going for?
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46227 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:08 am to
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From a cultural standpoint, I dont get it. Jews are net tax payers, and low crime. US Jews are also very different than Israeli Jews - who are all about faith, family, and country. Is that not the ideal we are going for?


I would say that, ultimately, it's pretty much everything we should be going for.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 12:13 am
Posted by Heyes
Baton. Rouge
Member since Jul 2013
765 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:12 am to
Within a few months the story broke of the “five dancing Israelis “ , a group of Israeli mossad agents who were filming the event from a rooftop in New Jersey. As the planes struck they were dancing , high fiving each other , thus the name . They were originally , reported and arrested and detained for a month then released .
They then went on Israeli television where they said we were there to “document “ the event .
How can you document something unless you knew it was going to happen ?
When that story broke I haven’t believed what we were told
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 12:44 pm
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46227 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:15 am to
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How can you document something unless you knew it was going to happen ?


Good point. It's not like it was advertised in advance to the masses.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
46227 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:16 am to
This thread was anchored? Why?

Thanks, LA.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26305 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:48 am to
I don't exactly remember when, but it was probably four years after 911 that I realized it was part of a plan orchestrated by our govt.

And yall will get a kick out of this. My wife actually knew it well before I did but we didn't talk about it much because she didn't want me knowing just how shitty our country was. Ignorance is bliss.

Why were all the cameras off at the pentagon. Save one that came out years later. The phone making phone calls when the were out of cell service at the time. And no I am not talking about the on board plane phones.

Remember the plan that crashed. "Let's roll" obviously bull shite to pump up the people.

The "decision was made to pull it" comment made by the buildings owner.

The back to the future movie riddled with 911 stuff. The mall in the movie was name twin pines. And then a later it had only 1 pine ( the memorial to be).

US getting sued by one of the 911 hijackers and the US losing. Crazy how a person that died in the plane crash was alive and well after 911.

The perfectly intact id from one of the hijackers that dies in the crash. I guess those papers don't burn.

Pentagon is struck where the audits were happening.

"kite plane must hit steel" is a strange string of words for little kids to be reciting to Pres. Bush when he was notified of the attack.

This isn't even one percent of the evidence. Seriously not even 1%.
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2083 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:20 am to
The CCP is pushing this narrative to undermine the U.S.

It’s not surprisingly become a thing on TikTok.

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52139 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:38 am to
You are a nut if you believe the Deep State was part of a conspiracy to take down those buildings. The only way they could have killed more deep staters was to focus more on DC, and remember, they DID attack the Pentagon.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
10925 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 4:24 am to
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Either the government was retarded or the government was genius manipulators

There's a third option.

The government is retarded, and that fact was exploited by a tiny collective of genius manipulators.

That's the middle ground theory I generally go with.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
Undisclosed Secure Location
Member since Feb 2008
23786 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 5:54 am to
I’m absolutely skeptical of our response.

Do I think the government “did” 9/11? No. Do I think W is an absolute lying snake? Yes.

Do I think we wasted a generation fighting in the Middle East in the name of retribution? Yes.


Do I think the trillions spent and thousands lost changed anything? No.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
2030 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:10 am to
The federal government is incapable of delivering the mail. I have a hard time believing it in turn created a global war on terror. What I do believe is incompetence led to the tragedy of 9/11 and led to the inappropriate response. Conspiracies give way too much credibility to D.C. bureaucrats.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
43935 posts
Posted on 4/17/25 at 6:37 am to
Never believe anything the gov’t says about anything.
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