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re: How many people understand what happened yesterday with Trump's 90 day pause on tariffs?

Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:40 am to
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
34940 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:40 am to
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If I knew clear intent I would have less problem with it.


Jesus H Christ. Don't know his intent?
Now you're being full- retard.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24785 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:42 am to
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Jesus H Christ. Don't know his intent?


Six theories floating on this board right now for what he’s trying to do. It’s a board full of retards, how are you surprised to find one of any persuasion floating around.
This post was edited on 4/10/25 at 11:44 am
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83326 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:48 am to
It's just going to be like this. For all the celebration of how Trump cornered China, there's going to be reporting like today about how the EU and China are negotiating right now to reduce Chinese tariffs to strengthen their trading relationship
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3683 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:52 am to
I guess you wish Biden or Kamala was back in office so you’d know their clear intent. Got it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149404 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:52 am to
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The anti Trumpers say Trump caved,


What do the Trump loyalists say in comparison?

Where does truth often lie?
Posted by Bayou
Boudin, LA
Member since Feb 2005
38992 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:56 am to
Every country needs us or they have no market
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149404 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:56 am to
Is it unreasonable to not want Kamala in office and also want clear intent?
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
14112 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 11:58 am to
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Six theories floating on this board right now for what he’s trying to do. It’s a board full of retards, how are you surprised to find one of any persuasion floating around.
Insulting anonymous posters online is such a waste of time


quote:

CollegeFBRules
Purposefully being obtuse and yet calls others retards.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
32814 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:01 pm to
Look, believe what you want. But, he was facing a bond market that was behaving in a very much non traditional way. He had China and Japan dumping treasuries . Both acting on their overall individual best interests.

I'm not convinced that Trump knows what he's doing overall. He's way too confident in his negotiating abilities.....and his negotiating abilities are not as great as he would brag about. I always remember the story of Angela Merkel having to tell him that any trade deals had to be done with the EU and not Germany alone
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17231 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:05 pm to
eh, two things in order of significance:

1. Bond market caused him to back off.

2. Holy shite, we have 75 negotiations and then possibly 75 deals to write up and, knowing Trump, very ceremoniously sign.... just too much to do. "It'll never be ready in time!"
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
32072 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:10 pm to
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Currently over 75 nations who have trade agreements with the US are lining up to meet with Team Trump's trade negotiators to draft trade agreements that are beneficial to both nations.....and hardliners in the CCP are not happy.

Those 75 nations understand that the US is the #1 economy and foremost power in the world, and that China is the #2 economy and penultimate power in the world. If they have to choose between the US that does its fair share of evil but is ultimately immensely profitable and a powerful ally, versus siding with the CCP that is actually guilty of widescale human rights violations, ethnic cleansing and has been on the record for decades as their goal being worldwide domination?

I'm pretty sure you go with the more powerful lesser of two evils.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25190 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:12 pm to
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Six theories floating on this board right now for what he’s trying to do.


Plus the theory that it's unknowable, so you can't criticize because you don't know what he's trying to accomplish.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
24808 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I think this is theory #6, now.


President Trump keeping the hardcore MAGA disciples, leftists and Main Stream Media all guessing. Honestly, doing so could very well be a key to helping this all turn into a successful outcome for him and America.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
96586 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:21 pm to
It’s redundant to say that he caved when he increased Chinas tariffs. China is the big fish in the pond in regards to trade.


And the “Trump was worried about bond yields” argument is also crap considering China was the main one dumping bonds and raising tariffs again on them wouldn’t stop that
Posted by RoyalWe
Prairieville, LA
Member since Mar 2018
3683 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Is it unreasonable to not want Kamala in office and also want clear intent?
With Trump? Yes, it is completely UNREASONABLE to expect him to be clear if that will affect his NEGOTIATIONS. You will never ever never be told clear intent if gaining ground in any way might be impacted by it.

So, all of you people who can't wrap you head around that, please make another thread about "what does it mean" and "I wish he would tell us".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:29 pm to
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Where does truth often lie?


In the middle but I don't believe there is a middle ground here.

China retaliated against Trump's original 34% Chinese tariffs with an 84% tariff on U.S. imports into China. Then apparently according to the anti-Trumpers China in conjunction with Japan sold U.S. Treasuries on the bond market causing a disruption on the bond market.

The anti-Trumps then say that Trump caved by doing the following:

Trump threatened with a 104% tariff on China then officially Trump "reversed" course on everyone with a 10% baseline tariff except for China where he upped their tariff from 104% to 125%.

But Trump didn't punish Japan. In fact Japan was lumped into the countries of good trading partners. All these countries tariffs have gone down to 10% for 90 days as each trading partners' trade deal is worked out:



This is the administrations position. IDK why it seems so implausible to people.




On a side note...

Remember during the 2016 campaign how Trump would constantly rhetorically rail against China on the campaign trail? He did it in almost every campaign rally.

Then during his first term he played pretty nice with Xi and China.

In 2024 campaign Trump was pretty quiet about China relative to 2016.

But as soon as he was inaugurated he filled the economic side of his cabinet with China hawks.

The Trump second term Trump appears to be taking a lot more tougher stance against China.

Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5252 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
132617 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by kbro
North Carolina, via NOLA
Member since Jan 2007
5252 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:10 pm to
Poor guy. Roooougggh week!
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
2565 posts
Posted on 4/10/25 at 1:47 pm to
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To stop the market bloodletting?


To block the mess from your bleeding TDS vagina.
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