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re: How handy would Bagram Airbase be right now?

Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:05 am to
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:05 am to
quote:

Trump said for years… he was responsible for the Doha deal


Hey Boiiii! We dont like your facts around these parts. You best be on the road before the sun sets.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:11 am to
Nothing’s a fact without sort of source information to look at. If something’s truly a “fact,” then such a thing should always be relatively simple to come up with.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
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Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:14 am to
US Taliban Peace Deal
quote:

Withdrawal of foreign forces. The United States agreed to reduce its number of troops in the country from roughly 12,000 to 8,600 within 135 days. If the Taliban follows through on its commitments, all U.S. and other foreign troops will leave Afghanistan within fourteen months.

All foreign forces = zero permanent presence = no troops / no base
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:15 am to
See post above. Or google the Doha deal and choose any number of sources.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 12:17 am
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:23 am to
LINK

quote:

the United States, its allies, and the Coalition will complete the withdrawal of their remaining forces from Afghanistan within 14 months following the announcement of this joint declaration and the U.S.-Taliban agreement, and will withdraw all their forces from remaining bases, subject to the Taliban’s fulfillment of its commitments under the U.S.-Taliban agreement.


“all their forces from remaining bases”

You could use a sharpie and write “except for Bagram” to change reality.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:24 am to
And what point are you seeking to make here?
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 12:38 am to
The Taliban also had counter terrorism obligations in that deal that they obviously didn’t meet. When they come rolling through they released a lot of prisoners. That’s just what I can remember off the top of my head. The deal would have been null and void at that point leaving the Trump free do whatever he wanted had he been elected in 2020.

The Taliban was also supposed to start talks with the Afghan government at the time if I recall too which they never did obviously. All they did was attack them. The Taliban probably broke every promise in that deal nine ways to Sunday.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:15 am to
quote:

Nothing’s a fact without sort of source information to look at. If something’s truly a “fact,” then such a thing should always be relatively simple to come up with.

If you can't afford a mirror I can venmo you
Posted by kilo
No block, no rock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:18 am to
quote:

If you can't afford a mirror I can venmo you


Send it this way pleb

Posted by AC1221
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:23 am to
Which is crazy weird, because the Taliban violated the terms of the deal repeatedly and Biden lied about generals McKenzie and Milley recommending a security force be left in place.

LINK

LINK


Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:37 am to
I guess you missed that day in kindergarten when they tried to instill in you the concept of restraint, and sometimes it is best to say nothing at all. But you clearly have impulse control issues.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:46 am to
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Which is crazy weird, because the Taliban violated the terms of the deal repeatedly and Biden lied about generals McKenzie and Milley recommending a security force be left in place.

It’s not “crazy weird”. Biden admin’s execution of the withdrawal warrants criticism.

There’s no scenario where that has anything to do with keeping Bagram unless you are suggesting the war shouldn’t have ended.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
8244 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:49 am to
quote:

The deal would have been null and void at that point leaving the Trump free do whatever he wanted had he been elected in 2020. The Taliban was also supposed to start talks with the Afghan government at the time if I recall too which they never did obviously.

So you would’ve wanted Trump to send troops back in? Maybe this is why a lot of people argue the Afghans should’ve been the ones at the negotiating table with Trump and if any parties were to be left out it should’ve been the Taliban.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173381 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 1:49 am to
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I guess you missed that day in kindergarten when they tried to instill in you the concept of restraint, and sometimes it is best to say nothing at all. But you clearly have impulse control issues.

Coming from a cartoonish person that thinks I support terrorists. The jokes write themselves.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36551 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 2:24 am to
You support anything that causes Trump problems and issues. Take that as you will. Does that sound too shallow to be possible? To normal people, sure. But it’s exactly the sorry case here.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:01 am to
You can ask Chyna. I’m pretty sure they are using the hell out of it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476020 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:37 am to
quote:

You support anything that causes Trump problems and issues


Powerman didn't make this stupid thread or give away the base, fwiw

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:39 am to
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Trump signed the deal to surrender the base.
Doha was conditional. The Taliban broke conditions almost as soon as Biden took office. That voided Doha. But Biden was in a panicked race for the exit.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476020 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:40 am to
quote:

Doha was conditional. The Taliban broke conditions almost as soon as Biden took office. That voided Doha. But Biden was in a panicked race for the exit.


To reverse the agreement would have required declaring war again.

There is no scenario where we peacefully keep Bagram without physical force and the same failed occupation we just engaged in for almost 2 decades.
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 6:44 am to
fricking potatoes and panicans
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