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re: How does the religious right justify with the ending of DACA

Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:44 am to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:44 am to
Trump is just following the way the Vicar of Christ (the pope) runs his country (Vatican...and it is a sovereign nation), walls and all.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 8:51 am to
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A 6 week old fetus is not a baby. Sorry.


So you're OK with "deporting" a tiny defenseless life from the womb of the mother?
Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:08 am to
If the mother decides that it's best for her life to not bring a child into this world, then yes.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:14 am to
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. Its just a shame that the right rather drench them in xenophobia and identity politics/race baiting/race based fear mongering


These are all tools of the left.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:16 am to
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didn't know Jesus was cool with killing babies.




I don't think anyone got his opinion on fetuses. Nice attempt at a deflection though
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:17 am to
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Its an holy unchristian act on a "National Day of Prayer."

How can the right keep voting for candidates who's political leanings are contrary to EVERYTHING Christ stood or and professed?

Who comes first, God or President?

Because this, like many other policies in this administration, are the antithesis of what you claim you believe.


Short answer colon there is no justification. They use religion to make themselves feel better but the reality is they're all horrible people
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:21 am to
Could you at least try to use a little logic in your argument? thanks
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:22 am to
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They use religion to make themselves feel better but the reality is they're all horrible people


You impress me as knowing nothing about religion. Have you ever tried it?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:22 am to
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If the mother decides that it's best for her life to not bring a child into this world, then yes.


Then think of it as the mother county deciding that it's best in it's life not to keep the DACA kids.

You should be good with it now.
Posted by Sidicous
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:37 am to
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If the mother decides that it's best for her life to not bring a child into this world, then yes.


So then you ARE in favor of deporting these DACA as "Mother FedGov" has determined it's best for her life to not bring these kids into her world.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:41 am to
The left despises Christianity until they need it to beat the right over the head. It's asinine and another reason to hate the left.
Posted by sparkinator
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 9:42 am to
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Message How does the religious right justify with the ending of DACA by StrongSafety Its an holy unchristian act on a "National Day of Prayer." How can the right keep voting for candidates who's political leanings are contrary to EVERYTHING Christ stood or and professed?


Throughout the Bible, organized government is shunned. Whenever the Israelites were conquering Canaan, the prophets cautioned them about the evils of a king. The book of Judges is a testament to living in faith and not under authoritarian control.

1st and 2nd Samuel the prophets railed against establishing a monarchy. But the people wanted one so the prophet picked a person to rule over them.

So I don't think God/Jesus is much in favor of any secular government. I think he often 'tired' of the Jews and their manipulation of the religious/political leadership as well.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:05 am to
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How can the right keep voting for candidates who's political leanings are contrary to EVERYTHING Christ stood or and professed?


well if you believed in god and we know that you don't then you'd know most major christian religions believe in god as trinity three distinct spirits co-equal in faith. there are a few exceptions mostly relegated to protestant sub groups and sects.

that means the father, the son and the holy spirit.

now god the father, he's a law and order kind of guy. he sent his son jesus to dye for man's sins.

according to Matthew jesus asked to be spared crucifixion in the garden of gethsemane

O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will but as you will.

by the way there's more than one interpretation regarding that quote but that jesus felt trepidation regarding his forthcoming crucifixion essentially as an expression of his humanity is widely accepted.

on the cross jesus expressed despair,

again from matthew

About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?").

why didn't jesus just transform himself himself into hulk and go apeschit on the roman soldiers?

because as part of that trinity well ol' jesus he's kind of a law and order guy himself.

believe or not kid there is law and in the realm of christ there is sin.

enjoy damnation.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13316 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:15 am to
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If the mother decides that it's best for her life to not bring a child into this world, then yes.


But if the mother(country) decides it is best for their lives to not to allow illegals to bring a child into this country, it's heartless, and unholy, right?

Posted by thegreatboudini
Member since Oct 2008
6448 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:20 am to


I never said I was in favor of DACA. I simply responded to a person who posted about killing babies.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:26 am to
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A 6 week old fetus is not a baby.
So when does it become a baby?
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
70914 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:34 am to
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don't think anyone got his opinion on fetuses. Nice attempt at a deflection though



Since you know so much about Him, what would He say about drone strikes?
Posted by Stagg8
Houston
Member since Jan 2005
12985 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 10:37 am to
Holding the religious right to the teachings of Christ is about as useful as holding Democrat politicians to their identifying with the poor.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53442 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:42 am to
Lol... this is the worst logic ever.

Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5579 posts
Posted on 9/4/17 at 11:44 am to
Religious right aka evangelicals are a political group, not a religious one
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