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re: how did this stuff feel in the 90s and before?
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:17 pm to scrooster
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:17 pm to scrooster
I'm 68 and thought the 60s and 70s were pretty reasonable but the wheels were about to wobble. Assassination of JFK, MLK, RFK coupled with all the movements - it was rather frenetic.
When the era of Statesmanship ended in DC it really hit the dumpster and I put a lot of that on the Clintons...especially his bride, that is one cold hearted, vicious #%_&@.
When the era of Statesmanship ended in DC it really hit the dumpster and I put a lot of that on the Clintons...especially his bride, that is one cold hearted, vicious #%_&@.
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Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:23 pm to JamalMurry27
I was born in 1979 and didn’t even own a computer until I started college, so growing up for me the internet was not a thing. It is not easy to put into words. All I can say is that I feel sorry for those born about ten years after me because their teenage years saw the beginning of internet dominance and things have been snowballing since then. Things truly were more simple for youngsters “back in the day.”
Posted on 7/28/24 at 11:50 pm to JamalMurry27
I was born in 1971, only thing I remember about politics, when I was really young, seemed like everyone thought Reagan was great. I remember the attempted assasination on Reagan because our teacher in elementary school wheeled a TV into our classroom and we watched it on TV for hours, same with when the space shuttle blew up. Different times and people weren't sissies about stuff like that and thought kids should see it because it was a big historical moment. I didn't really care about politics, but Reagan was a big deal.
I didn't really care or think much about politics until I was probaby 3 or 4 years out of college. Was too busy having fun, hanging with friends, working I guess..Was always gone from the house and the TV and didn't watch news or read newspapers..Didn't really pay attention to politics and hardly anyone around me ever talked about politics. I think politicians were more centrists back then and very few radicals so it didn't seem like it made much difference who was elected. We were all red blooded patriotic Americans, at least most of us were.... Seems like social media really made politicians/radical political extremists go into overdrive..
I didn't really care or think much about politics until I was probaby 3 or 4 years out of college. Was too busy having fun, hanging with friends, working I guess..Was always gone from the house and the TV and didn't watch news or read newspapers..Didn't really pay attention to politics and hardly anyone around me ever talked about politics. I think politicians were more centrists back then and very few radicals so it didn't seem like it made much difference who was elected. We were all red blooded patriotic Americans, at least most of us were.... Seems like social media really made politicians/radical political extremists go into overdrive..
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 12:56 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 12:35 am to JamalMurry27
I gather that my life-long interest in politics that began in elementary school is highly unusual.
One of my classmates in Lafayette in the 80’s was a US senator’s son. I’m a gnat’s lash from 50 and I clearly recall my third grade class discussing the 1984 presidential election, summed up by one boy stating, “We have to elect Reagan or the Russians will walk all over us.”
So, with that said, shite has definitely gone sideways this century. Normal people I ran into in the 80’s/ 90’s were center right, whether they voted R or for the blue dog Dems that existed at the time (usually union members). No one I ever ran into before I was an adult was a far left tankie nut job.
One of my classmates in Lafayette in the 80’s was a US senator’s son. I’m a gnat’s lash from 50 and I clearly recall my third grade class discussing the 1984 presidential election, summed up by one boy stating, “We have to elect Reagan or the Russians will walk all over us.”
So, with that said, shite has definitely gone sideways this century. Normal people I ran into in the 80’s/ 90’s were center right, whether they voted R or for the blue dog Dems that existed at the time (usually union members). No one I ever ran into before I was an adult was a far left tankie nut job.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:26 am to AcadieAnne
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So, with that said, shite has definitely gone sideways this century. Normal people I ran into in the 80’s/ 90’s were center right, whether they voted R or for the blue dog Dems that existed at the time (usually union members). No one I ever ran into before I was an adult was a far left tankie nut job.
Amen to that. Maybe it was crazy in the Vietnam war era, I wouldn't really know, before my time.
When I was growing up, you felt an obligation to be patriotic and want to serve the country even if you really didn't follow politics. People were proud to be Americans, and it honestly felt like it was the greatest country in the world. There wasn't big new disaster headlines every day in the news or changes in the news cycle everday from 1 big disaster to the next. The weirdos laid low, because people wouldn't accept their bullshite out in public. Men were real men and women were tough as nails too back then. You'd take a good whipping on your hind end just for looking at your elder sideways..Didn't matter if it was in public or not..I would say people had more morals and manners as a result..
This shite is crazy now..
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 2:33 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:52 am to scrooster
quote:100%. Especially the cars.
The Post WWII 40s and 50s and even early 60s were great.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:05 am to udtiger
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We spent time outside with friends and family. Played ball, fished, hunted, watched movies and flipped through LPs at the record store.
Face to face talk with real people.
People tend to behave better and not say batshit things.
Anonymous and online makes it easier to show your ugly side.
And that might be more honest but it doesn't get good results.
It could be that the custom of having manners and being polite is just an elaborate system where we lie to each other and cover up the seedy underbelly.
But that system of lies and deception actually serves a purpose. Civilization might just depend on people politely deceiving each other.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 6:54 am to JamalMurry27
It was pretty cool until 9-11.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 7:27 am to Kafka
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Rush L. & the talk radio revolution of the '90s
bite your tongue! The talk radio revolution started before the 90s. Except we were talking about Aliens
Posted on 7/29/24 at 7:42 am to scrooster
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draft dodging by the so called Silent Generation.
It was boomers that were draft dodging…. My dad was part of the silent generation, born in ‘36, too young for Korea, and too old for Vietnam. My uncle was born in ‘48 and was drafted to go to Vietnam in ‘67 as a 19y/o.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 7:46 am
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:23 am to ItNeverRains
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1984-09/11/2001 was the best time to be alive in human history.
It was great. If you go to Poland, you get a lot of this. The young folks even dress like 90s kids in the US did. Its wild. Malls are a big thing there. No tiptoeing around to avoid hurting this or that demographic's feelings.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:28 am to Adajax
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You'd wake up in the morning and walk to the driveway to pick up the morning paper. Most cities had morning and afternoon papers. Some papers would have a liberal editorial board, some a conservative one - pick your poison.
Mostly the print media would give the news fairly straight and save opinion for the editorial page. There was a subtle liberal bias in a lt of print media, especially magazines like Time and Newsweek, but it was nothing like we see today.
News at 6 and 10 (thirty minutes). People weren't consumed by politics 24/7. We spent time outside with friends and family. Played ball, fished, hunted, watched movies and flipped through LPs at the record store. We'd go down to the Chattahoochie and build a pyramid of cans in the pale moonlight. We lived our lives and didn't scream at each other.
This is a fair description, there was no 24/7 pitting of black folks against whites. The blacks at my school did their own thing, the whites did their own thing. We got along fine. The constant stream of victim politics really changed this country
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:32 am to JamalMurry27
In the 80s I remember some grumbling about politics, but nothing very heated.
Hot topics were the death penalty and welfare.
Things ramped up in the late 80s and early 90s because the left really hated Reagan, and as soon as Clinton got in he started talking far left initiatives like BTU tax and nationalized health care. But things were not as heated.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:33 am to JamalMurry27
Republicans were good people centered on Evangelicals.
Democrats were good people with bad ideas.
Either way, people just went about their lives.
Now, Democrats are lead by the fringe events of society, and DC Republicans are either spineless, or complicit.
Times have changed.
Democrats were good people with bad ideas.
Either way, people just went about their lives.
Now, Democrats are lead by the fringe events of society, and DC Republicans are either spineless, or complicit.
Times have changed.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:34 am to JamalMurry27
Life before the internet and the 24 hour news cycle was chill as hell.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:36 am to SouthEasternKaiju
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I was alive and naive enough to believe that once the Berlin Wall fell, the world was destined to have a Coke™ & a smile.
I was guilty of the same thoughts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:39 am to scottydoesntknow
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It was great. If you go to Poland, you get a lot of this. The young folks even dress like 90s kids in the US did. Its wild. Malls are a big thing there. No tiptoeing around to avoid hurting this or that demographic's feelings.
98% Polish
86% Catholic.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 8:52 am to JamalMurry27
Pre-1990 the media was just as left wing. But they hid it. Today they don't bother hiding their bias. Rand Paul said in his book that after he was diagnosed with Covid there were commentators on CNN and MSNBC that said they hoped he died. A show like The View would never have been on TV before 1990.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:04 am to wfallstiger
I'm 64 and I think I hit the sweet spot.
I remember things being exciting from the space race and we landed on the moon, I was 8. Vietnam war ended when I was 14 so I dodged that bullet. We all signed up for the draft back then, but war concern was over for a while. Cold war was still brewing, but with MAD, war didn't seem likely.
Drinking age in Texas was 18 back then, but I had a good head start as most off us did. Didn't change back to 21 until after I hit 22. I guess some of us messed it up for others.
R&R was still pretty good and R&B was still a influence. Disco came in, but I never thought as bad as many thought, the girls liked and and that was good enough for me. Still think fondly of some of those girls, I mean tunes.
Pot was abundant and not at all dangerous. Cocaine came in strong, but I didn't care for it and was expensive.
There weren't a bunch of weird, it'll kill you, sexual diseases.
Graduated from college in late 83 and started maturing in the real life. All in all, I think pretty good window for growing up and minimal worries.
I'll probably be around to squeeze the last ounce of Social Security funds before it has to do something. And I been paying into it 7% or so since I was 12. I don't want to hear any lip as I know I could have put that money in CDs and have a larger payment than today, I've done the math.
As far as politics back then, not the hatred and extreme bull shite we have today. You could post your yard signs and they'd still be there the next day with no property damage. Back then people lived and let live. Weren't always telling you what to do and think like they do today.
I remember things being exciting from the space race and we landed on the moon, I was 8. Vietnam war ended when I was 14 so I dodged that bullet. We all signed up for the draft back then, but war concern was over for a while. Cold war was still brewing, but with MAD, war didn't seem likely.
Drinking age in Texas was 18 back then, but I had a good head start as most off us did. Didn't change back to 21 until after I hit 22. I guess some of us messed it up for others.
R&R was still pretty good and R&B was still a influence. Disco came in, but I never thought as bad as many thought, the girls liked and and that was good enough for me. Still think fondly of some of those girls, I mean tunes.
Pot was abundant and not at all dangerous. Cocaine came in strong, but I didn't care for it and was expensive.
There weren't a bunch of weird, it'll kill you, sexual diseases.
Graduated from college in late 83 and started maturing in the real life. All in all, I think pretty good window for growing up and minimal worries.
I'll probably be around to squeeze the last ounce of Social Security funds before it has to do something. And I been paying into it 7% or so since I was 12. I don't want to hear any lip as I know I could have put that money in CDs and have a larger payment than today, I've done the math.
As far as politics back then, not the hatred and extreme bull shite we have today. You could post your yard signs and they'd still be there the next day with no property damage. Back then people lived and let live. Weren't always telling you what to do and think like they do today.
Posted on 7/29/24 at 9:47 am to JamalMurry27
Imagine being a fan of collegiate wrestling and you’re a fan of Iowa or Oklahoma. Then one day you show up for a meet and they have an exhibition match between Rick Flair and Roddy Piper as an added feature. The following year they add Hulk Hogan and Dusty Rhodes. Fast forward to present day and there is no more collegiate wrestling and they’ve replaced it all with professional wrestling.
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 9:49 am
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