re: How could any sane person support Biden over Trump?

the present-time answer is that Trump appears to have been part of the seditious conspiracy.

very recently he restated his case as, "i should be reinstated now (2023!) because there was massive fraud. "

this disqualified him.
forever.

I'm not saying I do because I don't (hell I don't believe Biden is actually the one in charge), but I'd imagine a lot of people see both as senile old people who don't need to be anywhere near the oval office

I can provide an honest answer/perspective.

I had a talk with someone I’m close to recently. I doubt this person has ever voted for a democrat in his life. I mean he is basically the opposite of a modern day liberal. Told me he would vote for Biden in 24 if it were him against Trump. He also told me before 2020 election during primaries that he would rather Biden than any other democrats because it he is the most moderate and couldn’t be that bad.

This all comes down to the perception of playing nice with the other side and appearing to be reasonable to them. He has always lived in a city as do all of his friends. They have to engage in conversations with more liberals, so they accept their premise more often in debate. Their premise is OMB, so they have come to accept it in conversation. He has even made comments in the past that my political preferences are skewed because I live in a red suburb.

I actually went off on him when he told me Trump wasn’t fit to be president. I laid into him about how much of a POS Biden is and how he very clearly has not ever been fit to be president. He kept bringing up Trump and I kept denying the conversation be about him. I’m very principled in my politics and have no devotions, I have no allegiance to Trump at all. I do think all politicians should be judged on a level playing field.

But that is it in a nutshell - too many Americans would rather not be caught with an “extreme” political position than to openly challenge mainstream positions.

This attitude is no different than the classic white liberal: I’m smarter and more sophisticated than those country idiots.

I’m very close to this guy, no hard feelings about his comments. But I’m seriously a bit shaken up by it still, it was the most “real” I have ever felt that we have lost the country because if he isn’t firmly against what the left is doing we just don’t have the numbers. There is no way he would actually vote for Biden, but the fact that he isn’t completely going after him for his record and instead blames Trump for being an a-hole and not being electable shows me just how strong the lefts media machine truly is.

The average voter does not pay attention to 90% of the stuff we do. They’re just not that engaged.

Also, Trump is hated by many due to media gaslighting over the last 6 years. I’ve dealt with this first hand and it’s unbelievable how some are all in on anything negative about Trump. TDS is a real thing and would make a fascinating thesis on the effects of propaganda.

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How could any sane person support Biden over Trump?

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Trump basically set himself on fire in 2020 and fostered a strong "anyone but Trump" mantra that permeated much of the country.

He might be the only person capable of such a pathetic self defeat.

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I laid into him about how much of a POS Biden is and how he very clearly has not ever been fit to be president.

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I’ve engaged with friends on this as well and it triggers a defensive response where they defend everything about Biden to justify their position. A lot of people don’t have the capacity to look at things objectively and consider they may be wrong. It becomes a game….like refusing to admit your team got away with a penalty or got a lucky call in football.

A lot of the ride or die Trump supporters are the same. They look at any criticism of Trump as a sign of weakness so they can’t admit when he does something stupid.

It always cracks me up when politicians claim their rival is unqualified for the job.

President of the USA has only two requirements.

1- Be 35 y/o by the time you take office on January 20th.
2- Be born an American citizen.

That's it.

Now you would hope that a country with 330M people could produce better candidates but, apparently we can't.

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How could any sane person support Biden over Trump

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You know how they convince themselves? Because they re-frame the proposition as, "can't anyone else be better than Trump?"

In the brainwashed minds (to your point regarding 'sane' minds) of Biden-sympathizers, voting for Biden is just another virtuous form of "social responsibility" in action - e.g. "We didn't vote for Biden, we voted to keep Trump out of office"

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How could any sane person support Biden over Trump?

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It’s very simple.

1) Mass register new voters in a select 5 states high density population areas. (Can get thousands per square block.)

2) Said states mass mail ballots to all registered voters. (In Pennsylvania’s case I believe you have 90 days pre election.)

3)Set up “drop boxes” for the mail in votes to be deposited, eliminating the necessity to show up to a voting poll and show your face.

4) Harvest mail in votes and dump them over the 30-90 days depending on the state.

And this can all be done in 1 to 2 counties in 5 states and flip the election.

I saw someone criticize Trump for losing GA and AZ a week or so ago. Go take a look at Trumps vote totals in all swing states 2016 then 2020. He VASTLY outperformed and gained support. By a lot. And you are talking less than 12,000 vote differences in two state elections with 2.5 and 5 million votes cast. (To put in perspective, Obama significantly underperformed his second cycle, and still won handily)

Joe Biden just so happened to be more popular than Obama. Yeah right lol