re: Higher order non-human intelligence directing these UAPs

That movie is so frickin good, man.

Made and or directed by higher intelligent beings, was that ever really not something we understood all along? The way most of these objects move in space and time certainly does mimic the ‘creative’ mode in some video games like in Minecraft or Halo.

Some of those blurry dots? They look like a cursor on a computer screen, but in 3-D.

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Even if it's us from the future, it may be perceived as higher order beings to those of us in the present. How far in the future are we talking? 1,000 years? If so, how advanced are our future selves.

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Which was my point given that he qualified it with "higher order non-human."

If our future selves are a higher order evolved version of ourselves .... at what point do we become non-human?

Is a piece of carbon that evolves into a diamond over billions of years under great heat and pressure ... no longer called a piece of carbon?

Brian Cox has some good discussions on this subject. I'll try to put it in basic terms, but essentially the current understanding of wormholes is there is no "going back" after you go through it. So no, it isn't correct that current physics theories say anything could travel back and forth by use of wormholes.

Right. I get ya. I'm just saying that if the UFOnauts are future humans from 1,000 years down the line, they're likely so advanced comparatively that they wouldn't even be perceived as humans. And since they haven't introduced themselves to us yet, I can't really fault someone for saying they're non-human.

Even then, traveling into the past, similarly to traveling vast distances across the cosmos would still require using exotic matter with negative energy density to create wormholes. So even hypothesizing that they're possibly future humans still faces the same daunting physics hurdles either way.

At the end of the day, whatever it is, it is very highly advanced compared to what we know of today. Although, I would note that a lot of people are saying that we have figured a lot of this shite out ourselves, but it's being kept under wraps in skunkwork projects.

Okay....so what?

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I know we are aware of higher order non-humans intelligence

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Yes, we have been aware of this since the dawn of time.

I think the laws of physics that we understand are based on our knowledge in a 3 physical dimension world (4 dimensions including time). 5,6 or more dimensional beings can rely on other physics laws that don’t apply to us.

“Time travel “ involving other dimensions would be simply removing themselves from one place in time and reinserting themselves in another place. Much like a 3 dimensional person moving a chess piece on a 2 dimensional chess board.

A other dimensional beings could do the same removal and insertion along a time dimension or a place dimension. But to us 3 dimensional beings it looks like time travel or moving at impossible speeds according to our 3D knowledge of physics.

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I know it makes for good movies and conversations but the likelihood of another life form reaching Earth is next to zero if not zero. The closest solar system to Earth is four light years away and that is assuming a life form exists there which is a huge assumption because we know quite a bit about it already. One light year is nearly 6 trillion miles. The next closest solar system to Earth is six light years away assuming it has life forms. Nothing above the size of a cell and even that is highly debatable can travel at the speed of light. Even IF a singular life form could travel at the speed of light momentarily, it couldn’t withstand it for four straight years. That is organically impossible and could not withstand that amount of force. Not to mention a food source for four years and just to pop in and say hi lol. As mentioned in earlier threads, some of the stars in the sky have very likely burned out or have reached a phase that could no longer sustain life when you factor in space and time.

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I've listened to a few podcasts with various astrophysicists and theoretical physicists discussing what's required to approach any reasonable level of technology to traverse interstellar space and they all agree the energy source is the most unimaginable hurdle. The consensus of many theoretical physicists is the energy required to accelerate just a few kilograms of matter to near light speed is more energy than our own sun has emitted since its formation. These same physicists also said the to accelerate near the speed of light would be very difficult because the micrometeorites which are ubiquitous in outer space would be akin to a commercial jet cruising at 500 mph flying into ash cloud of a volcanic eruption.

My belief is, if there are other civilizations throughout the universe that have somehow made the trip to earth it is not through the traditional method of travel (distance and speed) that we currently understand and employ. These advanced civilizations, if they exist are likely using some method of inter-dimensional technology.

Well, if it's time travel the UFOnauts wouldn't actually be operating from higher dimensions. They would share this 3d world with us but simply be in different 4d time coordinates. From our perspective, when we saw them pop into our timeline out of nowhere it would appear as if they're possibly coming from another dimension, but not really.

If they're beings from higher dimensions (5d, 6d) this shite would be childs play for them.