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re: Here we go again, more school shooting
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What Bill suggested in recent years would have addressed a 17 year old illegally acquiring a firearm?
Uh, I didn't make any point that any of them would have, so not sure why you're asking me that. I'm simply pointing out that some are now comfortable admitting they're okay with innocent deaths from gun violence as it's just a price society has to pay for having gun rights. They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live. Pretty sad thing to admit, but that's where we are.
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Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:57 pm to The Spleen
quote:The 2 are completely unrelated, though.
They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live
My right to own a weapon does not give me a right to take your life.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 1:59 pm to The Spleen
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They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live. Pretty sad thing to admit, but that's where we are
That's such an ignorant and dishonest way to spin the argument. Typical of someone as comically uneducated as you are. What about the fact that citizens use firearms to protect the lives of themselves and others? Are you too stupid to factor in that part of the argument? The right to own a firearm is certainly more important than the ignorance-based reasoning behind your opinion.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:02 pm to Powerman
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Whoever helped facilitate that either through negligence or willful misconduct should be severely punished.
Do you think all of those guns shooting up black kids in Chicago are purchased legally? Seriously?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:05 pm to Clames
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That's such an ignorant and dishonest way to spin the argument.
There's no argument. The guy literally said the loss of innocent life is just part of the price to pay for the 2nd Amendment. No spin needed.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:05 pm to The Spleen
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They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live. Pretty sad thing to admit, but that's where we are.
For this to be true, you have to assume that every gun owner will kill at least one person. Do you believe that?
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:07 pm to The Spleen
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They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live. Pretty sad thing to admit, but that's where we are.
Why does this always seem to come up after a school is shot up. Are 8 lives in Chicago not just important? And if I understand correctly, Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws of any city. If that is the solution, then Chicago shouldn't have one fatality from guns. Correct?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:09 pm to kcon70
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Rural area outside Houston and Galveston.
There's nothing "rural" between Houston and Galveston.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:11 pm to Lg
You could use his argument to nullify almost every amendment of the constitution.
Why should people be able to say cops need to die? Cops have died just because some people want to protect their 1A rights. That's not ok.
Why should people be able to say cops need to die? Cops have died just because some people want to protect their 1A rights. That's not ok.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:12 pm to Lg
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Why does this always seem to come up after a school is shot up
I don't know. I'm not the decider on what topics get discussed here and rarely start threads.
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Chicago has some of the strictest gun laws of any city. If that is the solution, then Chicago shouldn't have one fatality from guns. Correct?
Geography, interstate and highway systems, how do they work?
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:12 pm to The Spleen
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There's no argument. The guy literally said the loss of innocent life is just part of the price to pay for the 2nd Amendment. No spin needed.
Murder rate is down overall. The total numbers is what matters in this particular debate.
Regarding school shootings, something has broken in our modern society that people end up feeling so dislocated from their community, so nihilistic. IMHO, its the lack of actual community in communities. We all live next to and among one another, but no one really knows their neighbors anymore...and I'm as guilty as the next person in this respect.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:13 pm to IllegalPete
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Dems are going to have to find someone else to massacre besides school children.
They have no regard for human life, so it won't be hard for them.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:14 pm to starsandstripes
Seems like this kid was into the occult and/or satanic themes. I'm sure that had some sort of influence on his decision.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:18 pm to cwill
What has the students response been? Have they been ripping the president and gun laws like Florida students did?
I don't do Twitter
I don't do Twitter
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:20 pm to cahoots
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I think the point is that if you can’t blame guns for shootings, then you certainly can’t blame video games, the media, or much of anything without being inconsistent.
Not really.
You're comparing a physical object...a gun..with possible psychological motivators.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:23 pm to The Spleen
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The guy literally said the loss of innocent life is just part of the price to pay for the 2nd Amendment.
More lives are saved with the 2nd Amendment in place. To use your way of thinking, you are willing to have more people die as the price of giving up the 2nd Amendment.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:24 pm to Clames
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More lives are saved with the 2nd Amendment
Prove it. With facts.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:25 pm to Lg
quote:So does the news, social media, the internet, bullying, movies, music, etc.
But when parents are using them as baby sitters instead of instilling some kind of value system, it is a problem. I think the game desensitizes kids of the value of human life.
That's a very slippery slope
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:25 pm to Clames
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More lives are saved with the 2nd Amendment in place.
There is no way to quantify that...it's a ridiculous argument to make and unnecessary.
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:26 pm to cwill
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Suspect used a shotgun and .38 revolver in school shooting, governor says
The Texas high school shooting suspect used both a shotgun and a .38 revolver to kill 10 people in Santa Fe this morning, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said at a press conference.
"Neither of these weapons were owned or legally possessed by the shooter," Abbott said, noting instead they were legally owned by his father.
Welp wonder what the AR-15 grabbers will try now
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