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re: Here we go again, more school shooting

Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:26 pm to
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I'm simply pointing out that some are now comfortable admitting they're okay with innocent deaths from gun violence as it's just a price society has to pay for having gun rights. They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live. Pretty sad thing to admit, but that's where we are.


Then you're simply confused.
Accepting the reality that mentally ill sociopaths exist among us, is not anything like "being O.K." with their violent acts.

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They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live.


Thats just dumb.
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:27 pm to
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Seems like this kid was into the occult and/or satanic themes


nothing good comes from organized religion.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:28 pm to
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Accepting the reality that mentally ill sociopaths exist among us, is not anything like "being O.K." with their violent acts.


Taking direct action to limit efforts for mentally ill sociopaths to have hurdles thrown up before they can commit their violent acts is, though.

You've chosen to accept a certain level of dead Americans to soothe your fetish. Sad.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:29 pm to
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Not really.
You're comparing a physical object...a gun..with possible psychological motivators.


There’s a psychological component to physical things, including guns and video games. You’re trying to make a distinction that doesn’t exist.

Blaming a video game or a news report is barking up the same tree as blaming a gun
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 2:32 pm
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
5589 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
Prayers for those poor children and all impacted by the shooting. I especially pray for parents, loved ones and friends of the deceased and wounded. Can't even begin to imagine what they're dealing with right now. The loss of a child is THE MOST traumatic experience a parent can go through. This is just awful.

May God grant them eternal rest, and may the souls of the departed rest in the arms of the angels.
This post was edited on 5/18/18 at 2:36 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74090 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
I fully support gun violence restraining orders.

What are your thoughts on them?

LINK
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
28547 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
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So it sounds like we should pray for social media servers to go down to solve this problem?




you have a strange way of thinking, and not in a good way
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138863 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:30 pm to
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Taking direct action to limit efforts for mentally ill sociopaths to have hurdles thrown up before they can commit their violent acts is, though.

Like informing the FBI of the actions and threats of a kid in Parkland, FL only to have those red flags ignored?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:31 pm to
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Geography, interstate and highway systems, how do they work?




What are you trying to say..that guns are brought in from areas with less restrictive gun laws?? If so, that makes no sense. Why don't those areas with less restrictive gun laws have higher gun crimes, if availability is the issue?
Posted by themunch
bottom of the list
Member since Jan 2007
71718 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:31 pm to
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to soothe your fetish.


That is dishonest and crude even for you.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138863 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:32 pm to
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There’s a psychological component to physical things, including guns and video games. You’re trying to make a distinction that doesn’t exist.

Ah yes, the "video games are desensitizing our youth" argument that's been going on for 25 years despite there being zero evidence
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:33 pm to
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Seems like this kid was into the occult and/or satanic themes.


So yer sayin' he was a liberal.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:34 pm to
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What are you trying to say..that guns are brought in from areas with less restrictive gun laws??


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, because that is exactly what is happening.

Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Prove it. With facts.

Lame.
Prove more guns cause more violent crime.
Prove it with facts.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:35 pm to
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Ah yes, the "video games are desensitizing our youth" argument that's been going on for 25 years despite there being zero evidence




How many school shootings were there exactly before the shooter games came out? I mean PONG on the old Atari system was about the most violent game I can remember as a kid.
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:36 pm to
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying, because that is exactly what is happening.



And exactly what gun laws will keep this from happening?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:37 pm to
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And exactly what gun laws will keep this from happening?



Not sure why you're asking me this as I haven't argued for any gun laws.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:37 pm to
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There is no way to quantify that...it's a ridiculous argument to make and unnecessary.


Didn't Obamas CDC report show that guns are used in at least 2,000,000 defensive situations every year? How many unjustified gun deaths are there in the US in a year?
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138863 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
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How many school shootings were there exactly before the shooter games came out? I mean PONG on the old Atari system was about the most violent game I can remember as a kid.

Show me the empirical evidence that proves video games are the cause of school shootings.

How many school shootings have happened before and after the rise of the mainstream use of the internet?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/18/18 at 2:38 pm to
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I'm simply pointing out that some are now comfortable admitting they're okay with innocent deaths from gun violence as it's just a price society has to pay for having gun rights.


I've said for 30 years that this is the case.

Sorry you're just catching up.

I'm also comfortable with the reality we have car accidents that kill people, and plane crashes and myriad other similar things.

There are benefits that support the cost. Sorry.
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They're basically saying their right to own a gun is more important than another citizen's right to live.
No, that's not what we're saying. I'm sorry you don't comprehend, but, you're arguing against your own creation.
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