re: Help me, concerning Trump.

Sounds like you got a lot of disinformation.

Iran does not control shite.

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I dont care how it ends up, iran is a fricking disaster

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"I don't care about what reality dictates, my opinion won't change regardless of what the facts end up being."

Spoken like a prize populist.

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Yall don’t get it.

The Iran “war” was a 100% success the minute we pushed Iranian nuclear capability back 10 years.

Everything else since then is just noise.

It’s 100% victory on that point alone.

And guess what? We will be back here in another 10 years having to do it again. And then another 10 years after that, having to do it again.

It’s just the nature of the issue.

What we need to make sure of is that we have presidents in place at those times who have the knots to pull the trigger and do this again and again.

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Apparently we've gone from “no more forever wars” to openly endorsing a forever war.

What exactly does “100% victory” mean here? What would 50% victory look like? Having to bomb them every five years?

And what outcome could ever qualify as failure under this definition? Who actually gets to declare that the ten-year setback was achieved in the first place? The president? The Pentagon? Intelligence agencies? What objective benchmark tells us “mission accomplished,” and how would the public ever independently know whether Iran was set back ten years, five years, or eighteen months?

More importantly, what happens once you make periodic war the policy itself? You’re not describing an emergency response anymore. You’re describing a standing commitment to bomb another country every decade indefinitely. At that point you’ve handed the military-industrial complex something even better than an open-ended war: a predictable, recurring market for weapons, deployments, replenishment, planning, and reconstruction of our own stockpiles.

And then who ever has an incentive to announce that the cycle can stop? If every strike is automatically a “100% victory,” while simultaneously proving another strike will eventually be necessary, you’ve created a definition of victory that can justify itself forever. Success means we have to do it again later. Failure presumably means we have to do it again sooner. Either way, the answer is more war.

Perpetual war made self-justifying by defining every round of it as a success is pure Strangelovian thinking.

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’m not bashing on him but seriously help me understand.
One minute the Iran navy is gone.
Next all the top Iranian leaders have been wiped out.
Next THE WAR IS OVER! WE WON!
Next the United States controls Hormuz and we may start charging fees for use.
Next Trump isn’t dealing with Iran anymore because they’re nuts.
Next we are very close to an agreement for the twentieth time.
Now Iran completely controls the Strait and Iran tells Trump ‘frick you’ we’re not dealing with you anymore and we’ll just wait until you leave office.
What in the flying frick is going on here?

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I think a couple of things are going on:

1. I do think Trump likely overestimated his chances of success. This is what Trump does. He did it with DOGE, he did it with purging illegals, with proving election fraud and putting people in prison, he does it all the time in fact.

2. Trump understands the culture of dictatorial leaders. Iran, Kim Jung Un, Putin, etc. What he understands about them is that they all understand that what you say means bupkis. It's what you do that matters. He'll say anything. It's why he told y'all No New Wars (and some of y'all believed it, because our culture is different. In America, what you say is what matters. Nobody really cares what you actually do.)

So he's doing exactly what they're doing. Just spouting propaganda. Notice that they say the same stuff he does, just from the other side of the table.

What's so hard to figure out? Trump wants certain things. Iran doesn't want to give them up. Trump wants to accomplish it without an invasion, so the options are limited.

Trump's trying to thread the needle by not killing Iranian citizens or US soldiers while simultaneously keeping the stock market and international economy from falling and bitchy Americans from crying.

Iran knows America is full of pussies who have mental breakdowns when gas increases. They know Americans are soft and entitled and can't handle even a couple weeks of uncomfortability.

They know many Americans hate Trump more than terrorists. They know that even conservatives are fickle and emotional thinkers.

I'm not sure why so many people think it should be a straight line between our objectives and the end results. I'm not sure why so many fail to understand that war is dirty and nothing ever happens exactly as you want it to.

It's really not hard to figure out what's going on. It's harder for me to understand why so many are struggling with it so much.

I think you guys will understand once you figure out how to control your emotions.

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It's really not hard to figure out what's going on. It's harder for me to understand why so many are struggling with it so much.

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Many supporters are struggling with it so much because they listen to what Trump says, and believe it.

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What in the flying frick is going on here?

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He is incompetent along with his entire cabinet. An empire requires effective management, so it's time we rethink our place in the world if the best leader we can produce in 12 years is a narcissistic nutjob and a demented walking vegetable that wasn't taken seriously when he was coherent.

We can't sustain strikes on Iran because a lack of suitable munitions. So why didn't we ramp up production? We've been shipping them out internationally en-masse for years, yet we didn't think we'd need to replenish stocks?

What about the evolution of drone warfare that has been on display in Ukraine? Everyone is studying and evolving now, except the United States.

For spending as much as we do on defense, its irresponsible and negligent that we are seeing these problems. That isn't a political statement, this problem has spanned multiple administrations across both major parties, both share responsibility for the failings of the supply and logistics side.

If we go to war with China, their drone cargo ship asymmetrical warfare doctrine will have us checkmated before we even begin to plan strikes.

Oh boy the 127th iteration of the same whinefest!

Were you the guy with then search feature broken?

There should be a Trump board. Then there would be an option to avoid same shite different day.

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Iran is making Trump a Jimmy Carter, they will deal with the next administration.

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Trump has two years left to lay waist to Iran.

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He's had the house and senate for a couple of years now and yet nothing has happened

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SPOT ON! I heard the NC REP Senate candidate Whatley at a town hall talk about needing a REP House & Senate to get things done. HIS crowd reacted very loudly, you have had that the last two years and what have you done with it?! It was comical that he reached for that line, and opened himself up to being seen as further out of touch with current events (Iran War, inflation, blatant corruption, etc) & the middle class.