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Hegseth establishing an Office of Religious Affairs

Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:19 pm
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:19 pm


Interesting to wonder what the founding fathers would think of this.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71934 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:20 pm to
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Interesting to wonder what the founding fathers would think of this.



I can state quite confidently that they would not be fans. However, at the time of the Constitutional Convention the country was 99% Christian.
This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 6:21 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
111950 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:24 pm to
What do you think this means and what are you fearful of here?

Personally, I have no idea. They've always had military chaplains. Is this just a different way of overseeing them?

Explain to me why I should be spooked by this.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
80077 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:25 pm to
purge the muslims...
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
40313 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:25 pm to
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country was 99% Christian.


Yep. There was no need when everybody was unified on the same page.

Religious war is a serious National Security issue. Pick up a history book and predict the future.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27261 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:27 pm to
They would certainly understand the need for strength and forgiveness that can only be found in prayer.

Of course the psychiatrist will say, "Here's a pill."
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
176055 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:29 pm to
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They would certainly understand the need for strength and forgiveness that can only be found in prayer.


Think they'll get forgiven for blowing up elementary schools?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27261 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:31 pm to
So you think it comes from a pill.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
20670 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:32 pm to
This is what I'd focus on instead of Iran
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3721 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:34 pm to
Welp, this is one idea that won't be rolled back when a Dem admin is in power. In fact, it's gonna expand bigly.
Posted by MKP2004
Member since Mar 2026
1150 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:38 pm to
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Interesting to wonder what the founding fathers would think of this.

They would hate it.

It goes directly against separation of Church and State.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
56876 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:39 pm to
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country was 99% Christian.


Yep. There was no need when everybody was unified on the same page.

Religious war is a serious National Security issue. Pick up a history book and predict the future.



It's hard to win a geopolitical advantage and domestic policy tug-of-war when there are multiple teams pulling on the same rope simultaneously and in different directions.....no cohesion and no common goals. The CCP doesn't really have this issue to impede their ambitions.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:43 pm to
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The CCP doesn't really have this issue to impede their ambitions.

Neither does NK.
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
60626 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:51 pm to
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I can state quite confidently that they would not be fans.


I can quite confidently state it would be mixed among the group.

I think Samuel Adams would disagree (he was the one to propose the First Continental Congress open with a prayer, a tradition that has continued to this day).

George Washington actively managed religious affairs as the Commander In Chief. He routinely appointed chaplains, ordered soldiers to attend divine services, and accommodated religious minorities (like exempting Quakers from military service). He believed religion was indispensable for maintaining morale and morality in the military.

John Adams famously stated that the Constitution was made "only for a moral and religious people." He would likely see an Office of Religious Affairs as a practical tool to ensure the spiritual well-being and ethical grounding of troops.

On the other side of that, Thomas Jefferson famously refused to proclaim national days of prayer and fasting, believing the federal government had no authority to intermeddle in religious institutions. He would likely view a federal "Office of Religious Affairs" as a dangerous overreach of executive power.

James Madison was the primary architect of the First Amendment and as such he was exceptionally strict on this issue. In his later writings (Detached Memoranda), Madison explicitly questioned the constitutionality of government-funded military chaplains, arguing they established a dangerous precedent of the state regulating and funding religion.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24930 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Explain to me why I should be spooked by this.


Probably because he is spooked by Christians.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
77772 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:03 pm to
Well if you showed the Founding fathers this?












They would first vomit. Then understand completly.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40830 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:03 pm to
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Think they'll get forgiven for blowing up elementary schools?


If there’s a hell, they’re all going for that one
Posted by tigerlion
Member since Jul 2009
2490 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:11 pm to
I wonder if it will do the same as the White House Religious Liberty Commission did this year and oust anyone who is critical of Israel.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21753 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:12 pm to
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Interesting to wonder what the founding fathers would think of this.


If you told them how many atheist, Jews, & Muslims we have in our population then I guarantee some of them would be surprisingly open.

Jefferson might even flip for the sole reason of combatting Islam. He hated Islam. So did his boy, Madison.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
6092 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 7:14 pm to
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establishing an Office of Religious Affairs
LOL. The Founding Fathers would look at our present society and that's what they'd have a problem with.
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