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re: Harris to call for price controls on grocery store corporations in Friday speech

Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:33 am to
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:33 am to
Mass layoffs will be the result
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:34 am to
Price controls are a great way to cripple the grocery and supplier labor force, but Dem voters will think they're a great idea.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:45 am to
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So what happened to the packers that were propped up by that 700 million if we still need more competition in the meat packing industry then?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26945 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:47 am to
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That is the dumbest shite I’ve ever heard.


It's classic populism.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
24825 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:52 am to
She is so stupid. But if she could do this then why can't she shut the border down right now too.

Her comments alone will drop some big food industry stock as well as they see future profits drop.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
20237 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:55 am to
Cut EBT and food stamps in half.

Stop subsidizing HFCS

Stop subsidizing Corn Ethanol

Stop imposing impossible EPA standards on tractors and modes of shipping.

There are 100 ways to reduce prices on food and groceries. But that’s not what they are really trying to do.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85422 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 7:58 am to
Ahhhhh price controls have come back around…

quote:

The Nixon shock was the effect of a series of economic measures, including wage and price freezes, surcharges on imports, and the unilateral cancellation of the direct international convertibility of the United States dollar to gold, taken by United States President Richard Nixon on 15th August 1971 in response to increasing inflation


quote:

The Nixon shock has been widely considered to be a political success, but an economic failure for bringing on the 1973–1975 recession, the stagflation of the 1970s, and the instability of floating currencies.


Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5913 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:03 am to
You're gonna love ze breadlines, komrads! Oh . . . and eat ze bugs!
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9787 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:07 am to
She’s positioning herself as the protector of middle class America and she’s targeting headline reading moderate/independent voters. She’s also attempting to frame Trump and the Right as approving “corporate greed”.

These people aren’t stupid but they are manipulative and reliant upon ignorance and jealousy among the masses. They tailor their messages to hit those points all of the time.

To Y.A.Tittle: this is one of the things I was talking about when I answered your question yesterday about how she’s going to appeal to the middle.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 8:08 am
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:08 am to
Yep, I am going to have talk to my wife about starting a victory garden in the backyard just so I do not have to eat crickets to survive. HOA gonna just have to deal with my duck meat farm I am about to have in my back yard.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41838 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:11 am to
Out here in St George we have a lot of competition for our grocery business. National chains, regional chains and locally owned stores. They are all fighting for our business.

There’s a lot of creativity as stores fight each other to get more traffic in their stores. Supermarkets aren’t just grocery stores anymore.

Sure prices are high, but inflation at all levels is the blame. I don’t believe Calandro’s, Rouse’s and Walmart are all in cahoots price gouging.

Keep the Feds out of our supermarkets. Look what they did to healthcare.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:13 am to
Moderate people do not want “price controls”. Free loaders want price controls.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24839 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:14 am to
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Free loaders want price controls.


Free loaders really do not want price controls because the cost of goods and services are going to sky rocket. You think inflation is bad, wait till there is a blackmarket for baby formula and all other kinds of crap.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87648 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:18 am to
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Price controls are a great way to cripple the grocery and supplier labor force, but Dem voters will think they're a great idea.


They can’t think beyond the end of their noses.

It’s a simple concept, really: the goal of socialism is equal outcomes for all. When you implement policies to that end, it disincentivizes the producers. When you disincentivize the producers, they stop producing (because, after all, why should I put in more effort when I’m just going to end up with the same as John Doe over there who does nothing? It’s just human nature). Then everyone suffers.

That’s a simple enough synopsis of it that even someone like Powerman could understand. I just can’t fathom how people don’t see it.
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22704 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:19 am to
FFS do it now. People need just the smallest taste of their own ideas
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
87648 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:20 am to
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Keep the Feds out of our supermarkets. Look what they did to healthcare.


And college education.

And anything else they get their grubby fingers into.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
9787 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:21 am to
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Moderate people do not want “price controls”.


They’ll see headlines that she is looking to make food more affordable at a time when people are struggling and that’s how it will be interpreted. We aren’t talking about people that consider how this impacts the supply chain. They’re also going to wonder why the Republicans are for retailers charging higher costs. This is all about framing an argument and by extension your opponents without ever accusing them directly. You let the recipient of the message draw those conclusions themselves. Again, headline readers not deep thinkers.
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 8:24 am
Posted by Bama Bird
Pittsburgh, PA
Member since Mar 2013
22704 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:22 am to
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Grocery stores make literally pennies on the dollar on fresh food items. Bread, milk, produce, etc. Yea, let's tighten the clamp on that. Grocery stores will stop selling it then. It won't be worth the shrinkage. Awesome plan.



When I worked at Walmart, iirc I was told the profit was 30 cents per item. I imagine it's about the same at Aldi or any place with a similar model
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by LegalEazyE
Madison, Wisconsin
Member since Nov 2023
6292 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:22 am to
Yeah... because it wasn't her and Biden's economic policies that have caused this... it is "greedy corporations" that are the reason for high grocery prices etc. She has a campaign ad saying this.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25843 posts
Posted on 8/15/24 at 8:23 am to
No way to control prices without nationalizing the food supply. Even then the government would have to operate it at a huge loss to make a difference and our country is already broke
This post was edited on 8/15/24 at 8:24 am
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