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Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:52 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Would Bunk be crying if Jews were starving?
No.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:55 am to TrueTiger
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Gazans voted for Hamas, over and over. They chose their fate.
The last election was in 2006 and the average age in Palestine is 19 so no they really didn’t.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:55 am to Bunk Moreland
It is truly an awful and unfathomable situation. Maybe Hamas could do something like release hostages (or their bodies) to save their people? Or they could just watch.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:56 am to Grassy1
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It's US dollars, earned, borrowed or printed by Americans, appropriated to the nation of Israel, used to purchase American made weapons to blockade and bomb the hell out of children.
I get being dubious about Israel, however, if Hamas did not attack innocent Israeli's on October 7, 2023, would Gaza be suffering like this?
The answer is no.
If Gazans didn't support Hamas so fervently, would they be experiencing this? The answer is no.
This truly is a part of the "find out" phase of past actions. You may not like it, but Israel is a civilized society surrounded by uncivilized nations, and those nations all want Israel eliminated. No, i don't like my tax dollars going to fund this, but i also don't shed a tear Hamas or Gaza, considering the entirety of Hamas' infrastructure is sheltered by Gazans. There are Muslims and Gazans that live peacefully in parts of Israel. They are not being exterminated. If Israel was anything like Hamas, they would have been eliminated long ago.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:30 am to au4you
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Those starving toddlers and babies should have done more canvassing in their neighborhoods
Ah damn. Since Hamas is hiding behind their babies while shooting at me and my babies, I can't defend my own babies.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Cuck.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 8:32 am
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:45 am to Azkiger
Israel sends out fliers and notifications of where they are going to operate and strike hours in advance to shuffle people out and minimize civilian casualties. Since Hamas dresses up like civilians and hides behind their women and children, it just makes it a endless cycle of whack a mole
Anyone thinking this is "genocide" doesnt seem to realize that if it was a genocide, it would have been over by the end of October 2023. Gaza is the size of a large US city and very dense. After 2 years of war their population is still increasing... "Genocide"
Anyone thinking this is "genocide" doesnt seem to realize that if it was a genocide, it would have been over by the end of October 2023. Gaza is the size of a large US city and very dense. After 2 years of war their population is still increasing... "Genocide"
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:57 am to Bunk Moreland
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Just be honest about what is happening.
Do you agree that Palestinians chose Hamas to be their political leadership?
Do you agree that Palestinians wholeheartedly (not just as a bargaining chip) believe, "From the river to the sea..."?
Do you agree that, even if waves of food and other resources poured in, Hamas would garner them all for themselves to further their war effort?
Do you agree that Hamas started a war with Israel, when they were in a reasonable approximation of a peaceful status on October 7?
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:46 am to idlewatcher
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But it's not really Israel or Hamas, or the Palestinians doing this.
It's US dollars
Wut?
Do you not know this?
Do you think Israel actually "defends itself"?
They don't. They are the US's largest beneficiary of all nations on this planet. That small little nation that in 1890 decided to start nation of mostly Europeans, in the middle of the Middle East and has been shedding it's own and other folks blood on their mission.
A country that is wealthy enough to fund it's own healthcare for it's citizens, and has a much higher per capita income than the US, yet still needs the US citizens to pay for it's weapons, and then have the US surround the region to "protect them".
Your and my tax dollars fund their bloodshed and expansion. Whether we print it, borrow it, or go to work and have it garnished from our paychecks.
Feel free to check my work, my fellow-American.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:01 am to Grassy1
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start nation of mostly Europeans, in the middle of the Middle East
They Jews and Arabs have fought over Jerusalem for millennia, but it was Mohammad that really got it going toward a suicidal shootout for both.
The Jihadis will get their 'Madhi' and the Jews will get their 'Messiah'...but it won't be in the manner or form that either expect.
"Every knee will bow".
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:06 am to BugAC
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I get being dubious about Israel, however, if Hamas did not attack innocent Israeli's on October 7, 2023, would Gaza be suffering like this?
The answer is no.
If Gazans didn't support Hamas so fervently, would they be experiencing this? The answer is no.
This truly is a part of the "find out" phase of past actions. You may not like it, but Israel is a civilized society surrounded by uncivilized nations, and those nations all want Israel eliminated. No, i don't like my tax dollars going to fund this, but i also don't shed a tear Hamas or Gaza, considering the entirety of Hamas' infrastructure is sheltered by Gazans. There are Muslims and Gazans that live peacefully in parts of Israel. They are not being exterminated. If Israel was anything like Hamas, they would have been eliminated long ago.
Unfortunately, history didn't start on Oct 7, 2023.
And unfortunately, we can't even pretend what Israel would look like without if were not the welfare state of the United States. That would be like imagining Nancy Pelosi's net worth without her access to congressional insider trading.
With the help of the UK and the USA, Israel has succeeded into penning up the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank. Somehow, the IDF intelligence and defense was invisible on Oct 7. They allowed the rabid folks to escape and kill 1242 people. Just what Bibi wanted.
You do know that Bibi propped up Hamas to keep Gaza separate from the West Bank (PLO)?
Now they have "defended themselves" to the tune of tens, and maybe hundreds of thousand of deaths of any human they can find.
None of that possible without the your and my tax dollars that has been purchased by AIPAC. They are smart and powerful. Not to mention our fleets and installed bases manned for their protection.
AIPAC boasts of it's $3.8 billion secured in March Continuing Resolution
We are slowly waking up. But we are slow, and very busy making a living and trying to enjoy our lives. It's understandable that we're distracted.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:10 am to au4you
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Those starving toddlers and babies should have done more canvassing in their neighborhoods. What is happening to innocent civilians and children in Gaza should make every person sick to their stomach. It’s unfathomable.
correct...and their own leaders responsible for their own situation should be held accountable
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:18 am to au4you
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Those starving toddlers and babies should have done more canvassing in their neighborhoods. What is happening to innocent civilians and children in Gaza should make every person sick to their stomach. It’s unfathomable.
Go on record, then.
1. Hamas disarms and there is peace tomorrow.
2. Israel disarms and there is no Israel tomorrow.
To paraphrase the late, great David Horowitz, "1 or 2?"
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:27 am to Ace Midnight
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Do you agree that Palestinians chose Hamas to be their political leadership?
They didn’t. Mossad and the Likud party chose them.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:31 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Would Gazans be crying if Jews were starving?
Would Gazans be crying if they were starving Jews would be the equivalent hypothetical.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:33 am to Burt Reynolds
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They didn’t. Mossad and the Likud party chose them.
So, there is literally nothing, including October 7th, that cannot be traced back to the Jews, themselves?
Did they help put mustache guy in charge of Germany in the 1930s? Clever AF if true.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:34 am to TrueTiger
Stop showing stuff like this and no one has to think about their problems.
Lets fix ours.
Lets fix ours.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:44 am to Ace Midnight
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So, there is literally nothing, including October 7th, that cannot be traced back to the Jews, themselves?
The deliberate strategy of Likud and Mossad to empower Hamas was a calculated move to fracture Palestinian unity and derail prospects for a viable Palestinian state. From the late 1970s, Likud governments, wary of the secular PLO’s growing international legitimacy, permitted and even encouraged the Muslim Brotherhood’s activities in Gaza, the precursor to Hamas, as a religious counterforce. Israeli officials, including former Military Governor Avner Shalev, have acknowledged Mossad’s role in enabling funds and operational space for Hamas to weaken Fatah’s dominance. By the 2000s, under Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud leadership, this evolved into a policy of tacitly supporting Hamas’s control of Gaza, highlighted by Netanyahu’s 2019 admission to Likud colleagues that bolstering Hamas via Qatari funds was essential to block Palestinian statehood. Mossad facilitated these financial pipelines, maintaining covert channels to ensure Hamas’s survival as a divisive force.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 10:46 am
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:52 am to au4you
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What is happening to innocent civilians and children in Gaza should make every person sick to their stomach. It’s unfathomable.
I used to feel this way. And then Oct 7th happened. The civilians supported it and celebrated. If they had been at the border on Oct 8 saying they don't support the actions of Hamas, it would be different.
I'm not even asking for much. Just have a few civilians speak out against terrorism when it occurs. Don't wait for a year into a war your terrorist neighbors wanted to finally protest Hamas.
I was very supportive of civilians in Palestine for years, but they never showed any desire to rid themselves of Hamas. Their inaction and silence after Israeli civilians were kidnapped and held as hostages was the last straw.
All they had to do was show up with signs saying, "We don't support kidnapping," or any minute gesture after 10/7, and I would probably still care about their situation. But they didn't. And that's literally the bare minimum.
It's the same reason I don't care about the situation of people in democrat ghettos. They've been given plenty of opportunities to show even the slightest desire for change, but they haven't.
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:52 am to TrueTiger
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“Something must change and quickly or the blood of innocents will forever be stapled to the recorded rule of Trump and the MAGA right.”
Why is it our fault? We are not attacking anyone. We send food and Hamas wont let it be distributed.
Not our monkeys, not our circus.
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