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Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:12 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Why you hating on NRA?They are wanting enforcement of existing laws before adding more.
NRA propaganda
You should want enforcement too.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:15 pm to Jbird
quote:Yeah, Putin and his boys should have just come over here and voted in all 50 states.
Nope voting should be anyone that wants to, signed Bamatool.
No need for collusion.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:16 pm to Redbone
Bamatool wants to make it nearly impossible to legally procure a firearm.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:21 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Then it's a mistake in both cases.
Which as I pointed out is a mistak
quote:"other countries" has nothing to do with this. Nice try obfuscating, though.
because we have no readily identifiable deficiencies in murder laws when compared to other comparable countries.
quote:Wrong on both counts. For example, I know that magazine sales are an incredibly silly proxy for ownership rates.
Yet again, you don't understand the studies and have no interest in researching the topic
quote:
you pretend that they don't make sense to more than just you.
They make perfect sense to me. I know exactly what they are, why they exist, and what they show. It's totally clear. I fully realize they are propaganda pieces for the gullible. Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:23 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I just joined in but so far the dumbass appears to be YOU.
showing you dumbasses
You look up stuff to support your argument but have no idea how to use fault tree analysis.
HINT: #1. Gather ALL the pertinent information on a subject. #2. Go through every one of those factors to determine which ones have some effect on the subject. #3. Work your way through ALL of them to determine which is the guilty party.
Thinking with your heart instead of your head only makes you THINK you are winning.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:26 pm to BamaAtl
quote:That's correlation not causality. Try again.
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:28 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Again, your lack of knowledge here and inability to do basic research of facts is your problem. Reality is clear.
Correlation does not equal causation. Your graph, much like all of your arguments, is without context and utter bullshite.
Try again.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:31 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Population size and SES.
Austin has a median income of around $57k.
San Antonio has a median income of around $49k.
Houston has a median income of around $40k.
You've clearly not spent much time in either place.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:31 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Population size and SES.
quote:
Crime is a combination of factors, obviously. O
seems like TX would be better off ignoring gun factors and focusing on "Austin" factors to improve the violence in Houston
quote:
One of those factors is SES, another is ease of access to firearms.
ease of access to firearms is the exact same in both Austin and Houston
why focus on that when it doesn't seem to be doing much? why not focus on the other factors and avoid eroding constitutional rights?
quote:
Only if the demographics are similar across those cities.
HEY NOW, *i* am teh one who brought up demographics in this dicusssion
wouldn't you agree that demographics between the US and, say, Western Europe, should also be a major factor in comparing the 2?
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:32 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Voting is a little more important than alcohol or tobacco or firearms
voting and firearms both have expressly protected behaviors by the Constitution
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
voting and firearms both have expressly protected behaviors by the Constitution
Like BamaATL gives a rats arse about the Constitution.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:34 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
The context was on his insistence that only urban areas have a gun death problem.
straw man
my point has always been about gun violence
i have expressly said i'm not discussing suicides multiple times in this thread
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Is that what you think DUI laws and minimum drinking age laws and manufacturer safety requirements are?
The only law that prevents anyone from purchasing alcohol or tobacco is requiring then to have an ID card.
DUI laws don't stop people from drinking. And manufacturer safety requirements don't save lives. Know what else has manufacturer safety requirements? Guns.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:38 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
It wasn't dropped, we moved on after you lost the point that there had never been a successful buyback program.
i never moved on
i asked for an example of a buyback without a ban
i'm still waiting on that example
here is the post:
notice i specifically excluded situations with bans to go along with the buyback
This post was edited on 11/14/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:38 pm to BamaAtl
What's the suicide rate of Japan? Nordic countries?
What's the gun ownership of Japan? Nordic countries?
If access to guns is a large indicator of whether someone will take their own life or not, please explain Japan and nordic countries.
What's the gun ownership of Japan? Nordic countries?
If access to guns is a large indicator of whether someone will take their own life or not, please explain Japan and nordic countries.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:42 pm to Redbone
quote:
What laws?
ID laws. ID laws are racist and disproportionatly affect poors and minorities.
quote:
Link me to them.
As you wish massah. Think progress says I'd laws are racist
Washington post says id laws are racist
quote:
NYC. Look it up yerself.
Has done nothing to curb the obesity epidemic.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:47 pm to Redbone
quote:
So what? Someone wants to die they will find a way.
Not always. Guns are the most sure way to commit suicide, and we see a large portion of people with a failed suicide attempt not successfully complete the act later. So having a gun increases your chances of success, and thus death.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:47 pm to Jbird
quote:
So no guns means no suicides.
Weird jump. No guns would mean fewer suicides, especially in states that currently have a high suicide rate by gun.
Posted on 11/14/17 at 1:48 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Nope.
especially in states that currently have a high suicide rate by gun.
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