re: Gun Control Discussion

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No, the issue is fixing the absurd ease of access to and prevalence of guns in our country.

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OK then, let's look at Texas

why is Houston more prone to gun violence than Austin? Dallas? San Antonio?

all of thees are major metropolitan areas. all of these states are under the same federal laws and state laws re: guns (and there are no significant differences in city ordinances to my knowledge). yet, there is a striking difference in rates of gun violence

"ease of access" doesn't seem to be affecting Austin very much

if your theory is correct, the rates of violence within states should be similar across metro areas. but it's not

Link with data about Texas violent crime rates by city

Second times the charm with you bamaatl. So here we go. Round two. Let's see if you can answer this time.

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We have all 4.

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No we don't. We have racist arse laws that prevent minorities from obtaining their vehicle privileges as well as their alcohol and tobacco consumption. Why do you want to punish minorities by preventing them from owning vehicles or purchasing alcohol and tobacco?

Why do you support racist arse laws that only really affect the poor which are overwhelmingly minority?

So why are you okay with 6 figure death tolls caused by alcohol/tobacco/vehicles each year?

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Why are you for those, but against common-sense gun control?

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LINK me where we have sugar control. Any 5 year old with $2 can load up on sugar.

LINK me where we have common sense vehicle control. How many elderly are on the road who endanger others? How many teenagers are on the road who endanger others? Hell, foreigners can come right off the plane and rent a car and go on a death stroll down a sidewalk. That isn't common sense vehicle control.

LINK me where we have tobacco/alcohol control. Any 18 year old can walk in a store and buy tobacco. And any 21 year old can buy alcohol. Did you know that alcohol increases the chance of suicide in those whom are suicidal exponentially? Why do you hate the mentally ill?

I await your response.

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Link?

it's dominated by suicides. don't fall for the bait

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I know Wyoming's gun death rank/rate is greatly due to suicides, but that is not what she said. She said Wyoming has the "highest firearm fatality rate of any state in the country." I want to see her evidence. I don't believe her.

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suicides are part of "firearm fatalities" or "gun deaths' or whatever term of art is used to conflate these discussions by including suicides

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I fully understand that. I still don't believe Wyoming has the "highest firearm fatality rate of any state in the country."

the Wiki article has it 5th. the data is based on this, which claims "Source: Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Center for Injury Control and Prevention."

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I'd also wager the high suicide rate there is more due to the fact the state has a combination of low population density, harsh weather, and there's nothing to do there. All of these things lead to a higher rate of suicide amongst a static population.

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suicide also tracks economic conditions, and we all know rural areas have been hurt by the new economy, especially post-Stimulus that had about half a trillion flow into urban areas to revitalize them

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I wonder what his spin will be on the whole voter Id law = racist but requiring an id to buy alcohol and tobacco = perfectly okay and we're doing all we can to end the 6 figure death toll a year caused by alcohol and tobacco.

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Requiring ID to get welfare benefits = not racist
Requiring ID to get into Democrat convention = not racist
Requiring ID to get into NAACP meeting = not racist
Requiring ID to get a job = not racist (unless the prospective worker is here illegally)
Requiring ID to get a drivers license = not racist

Requiring ID to vote = racist

You know, just for once I'd like BamaATL to just be honest and straight tell us she thinks anyone who isn't an urban progressive liberal is too stupid to be allowed to live on their own and that the government should have the power to make sure everyone lives the "correct" way.

I mean that's pretty much what all her arguments revolve around.

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allowing her to side track actual discussion on actual gun policies

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No matter what you do bamaatl will try to crawfish his way out of gun control. Only thing you can do is guide him into the hypocrisy that he will undoubtedly stumble into every time he speaks.

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why is Houston more prone to gun violence than Austin?

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Population size and SES.

Austin has a median income of around $57k.
San Antonio has a median income of around $49k.
Houston has a median income of around $40k.

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"ease of access" doesn't seem to be affecting Austin very much

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Crime is a combination of factors, obviously. One of those factors is SES, another is ease of access to firearms.

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if your theory is correct, the rates of violence within states should be similar across metro areas

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Only if the demographics are similar across those cities. That's why we adjust for potential confounders when comparing two distinct areas/populations. Obviously.