re: Gun Control Discussion

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How successful has it been in Australia since they cracked down after the massacre in Tasmania in the 90's?

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Do Australians have a constitutional right to bear arms?

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For starters, let's talk about the laws that would have prevented this

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If there were no guns manufactured or imported into the country, no shootings would happen.

Look at the UK. It is very difficult to find guns there. Sure, if you try hard enough and have organized criminal connections, I am sure you can find a piece. But it's not a case of just waking up one morning, going to the gun store and buying an AK before you go and shoot up a school. The fact it's so hard stops a lot of these incidents.

So, yes, gun control works.

Now, don't get me wrong, I am not advocating for a total ban on firearms. I like the idea of being able to protect my home (even people without guns can pose a threat). I am just arguing against the notion that gun control cannot work.

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If there were no guns manufactured or imported into the country, no shootings would happen.

Look at the UK. It is very difficult to find guns there. Sure, if you try hard enough and have organized criminal connections, I am sure you can find a piece. But it's not a case of just waking up one morning, going to the gun store and buying an AK before you go and shoot up a school. The fact it's so hard stops a lot of these incidents.

So, yes, gun control works.

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No guns equals no gun deaths? You don't say?

Tell us about the crime rates in the UK.

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Now, don't get me wrong, I am not advocating for a total ban on firearms. I like the idea of being able to protect my home (even people without guns can pose a threat). I am just arguing against the notion that gun control cannot work.

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Cool. Then address what you quoted.

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For starters, let's talk about the laws that would have prevented this

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Uh yeah how about the fact they’re always killed by police or themselves after accomplishing what they tried to do? If the “good guy” with the gun was there to stop it, you’d hear about it. Never happens and you know it.

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This is complete bullshite, and you know it. Even Obama's CDC said as much, which is why he went silent on that research when it was released.

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Gun Control Discussion

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People who are willing to give up access to arms are fricking insane.

Go read a history book.

There have been mass genocides in the past 100 years in first world countries. Why are we so stupid? We deserve this shite.

ETA grammars

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Explain how we implement that in the United States, then we can discuss its successes or failures.

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Now you're changing the subject when I evidently posted an example that's shown some success.

I would imagine we could follow a similar model as the Aussies. Of course, it would be a much larger scale, and there isn't the political will here to carry it out.

That being said , I don't really GAF about gun control. Let people own the guns they want. But everyone should stop acting shocked when stuff like this happens. It's just going to get worse too. It progressively gets worse every decade and it's never going to get better without some type of action (that's never going to happen).

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What is bullshite?

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Was I not clear?

This...

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Uh yeah how about the fact they’re always killed by police or themselves after accomplishing what they tried to do? If the “good guy” with the gun was there to stop it, you’d hear about it. Never happens and you know it.

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...is bullshite.

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I honestly have heard of the good guy with the gun stopping the mass shooting 0 times?

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That doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Have you read the CDC's findings on any of this? I'll guess that you have not.

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ow you're changing the subject when I evidently posted an example that's shown some success.

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No, I'm not.

Also, you dodged the original question about its "success."

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I would imagine we could follow a similar model as the Aussies. Of course, it would be a much larger scale, and there isn't the political will here to carry it out.

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Your imagination is useless to me, and to the issue. Let's hear how you would do it.

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That being said , I don't really GAF about gun control.

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Yes you do. That's why you're here, spouting the same incorrect platitudes as everyone else.

This should be good.

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I have not. Will you link me? I have no problem admitting wrong here, I am under the impression it very rarely happens

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You should read it (and there's a reason it got buried by Obama when it came out). Basically, defensive use happens just as often as offensive uses, if not moreso.