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re: Gun Control Discussion
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:36 pm to DarthTiger
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:36 pm to DarthTiger
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I don't know if it would have prevented today's occurrence; but I would like for certain mental health providers to be able to red flag a patient who exhibits homicidial/violent tendencies. These would be added to and show up on a person's background check and prevent them from purchasing guns. If a person is red flagged and wants to protest it, then he/she can be given a thorough psych eval. It's a start. And one that doesn't punish law abiding, responsible gun owners.
What qualifies someone to make that decision, and who determines the people that can do so.
Also, as GT23 pointed out, why do you want to preemptively shite on their rights?
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Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:36 pm to AUstar
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I disagree. We've always had guns, sure, but I don't think we've had the number of guns we have now. Nor did we have the had high capacity magazines (on both pistols and rifles) that we have today.
Prior to the NFA, you could literally order a Thompson sub-machine gun with a drum from the Sears catalog. Large magazines are not some modern revelation. Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:37 pm to Tyrusrex
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Considering that this shooter and the Las Vegas Shooter all did their damage in a matter of seconds, I think Bump stocks and other semi-automatic weapons kits that can easily convert semi to fully automatic weapons need to be debated and maybe even semi-automatic weapons themselves.
Ban belt loops and thumbs.
Ban 3D printers.
Ban ink and paper.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:38 pm to DarthTiger
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don't know if it would have prevented today's occurrence; but I would like for certain mental health providers to be able to red flag a patient who exhibits homicidial/violent tendencies. These would be added to and show up on a person's background check and prevent them from purchasing guns. If a person is red flagged and wants to protest it, then he/she can be given a thorough psych eval. It's a start. And one that doesn't punish law abiding, responsible gun owners.
Congrats. Now all you’ve done is given gun owners a reason to fear getting treatment for mental health as well as others who don’t want their mental health diagnoses put on their “permanent record”.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:39 pm to DarthTiger
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but I would like for certain mental health providers to be able to red flag a patient who exhibits homicidial/violent tendencies. These would be added to and show up on a person's background check and prevent them from purchasing guns. If a person is red flagged and wants to protest it,
Without due process? You're an idiot.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:40 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Ban belt loops and thumbs.
Ban 3D printers.
Ban ink and paper.
What we can do is ban the selling of these kits and make getting caught using one illegal, especially during a crime.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:40 pm to AUstar
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In the 1950's, you wouldn't find many people with a semi-auto rifle with a large magazine.
bullshite. After WWII the 30 cal. carbine with 30 round banana mags were everywhere. Army surplus store had bunches of them.
So, again...what is an "assault rifle"? By what characteristics do you identify one?
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:41 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:41 pm to Tyrusrex
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What we can do is ban the selling of these kits and make getting caught using one illegal, especially during a crime.
Oh.
Well in that case, let's just skip past all of that and make it illegal to shoot another person without justification.
Problem solved...
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:43 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Oh.
Well in that case, let's just skip past all of that and make it illegal to shoot another person without justification.
Problem solved...
We absolutely should, but since that won't stop even with laws, we should make killing another person as difficult as possible.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:44 pm to DarthTiger
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I'm just throwing out an idea.
I'm aware. As someone that has discussed this at length, trust me when I say your idea isn't new.
It also never holds up to any amount of scrutiny.
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If someone seeing a psychiatrist has communicated he has urges to kill others then goddamn right I want that person's ability to purchase guns removed. At least for the tome being. If they can demonstrate otherwise after treatment then great, their purchasing rights can be restored.
So just people that have said exactly that and only to their psychiatrist, or do we extend beyond that. If so, how far?
Also, still waiting to hear who determines this and what qualifications are required.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:45 pm to Tyrusrex
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We absolutely should, but since that won't stop even with laws, we should make killing another person as difficult as possible.
Why stop at firearms, then? How far are you willing to go?
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:46 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
You can take my 3D printer when you pry it from my cold dead hands!
Seriously though with a lathe and/or a mill and some stock aluminum you can make a sear in a machine shop that can be used to make an automatic weapon out of a semi automatic weapon. It's actually pretty simple.
The amount of legislation that these gun control people want gets pretty scary when you boil down what they will end up asking for.
Seriously though with a lathe and/or a mill and some stock aluminum you can make a sear in a machine shop that can be used to make an automatic weapon out of a semi automatic weapon. It's actually pretty simple.
The amount of legislation that these gun control people want gets pretty scary when you boil down what they will end up asking for.
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:47 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Whatever your intent is, the 'real issue' is the degradation of our culture by the prog filth over the past 60 years. With a decent culture you could have every home in America outfitted with machine guns and everyone would be safe.
With a decadent culture you can take away any amount or type of weaponry you choose and you will have the same instances of violence.
Until we agree to reverse the cultural rot, we will continue having evil consequences - only the shape of the weaponry will change.
With a decadent culture you can take away any amount or type of weaponry you choose and you will have the same instances of violence.
Until we agree to reverse the cultural rot, we will continue having evil consequences - only the shape of the weaponry will change.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:48 pm to Tyrusrex
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other semi-automatic weapons kits that can easily convert semi to fully automatic weapons
What "kits"?
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maybe even semi-automatic weapons themselves
So revolvers have to go...maybe?
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:49 pm to DarthTiger
LINKTrey Gowdy
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At least for the time being. If they can demonstrate otherwise after At least for the time being. If they can demonstrate otherwise after treatment then great then great
Edt.. link fixed
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:52 pm to Port Royal
quote:This is just a moronic statement. It is much easier to kill someone with a gun. It is exponential easier to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time with a gun than with a garden trowel.
I could just as easily kill you with a can of Kerosene or a garden trowel
How can anyone have an intellectually honest conversation about gun control with someone that believes a garden trowel is just as deadly as a gun?
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:54 pm to PearlJam
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This is just a moronic statement. It is much easier to kill someone with a gun. It is exponential easier to kill a large number of people in a short amount of time with a gun than with a garden trowel.
How can anyone have an intellectually honest conversation about gun control with someone that believes a garden trowel is just as deadly as a gun?
Neither is inherently more dangerous than the other.
Start there.
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:56 pm to PearlJam
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How can anyone have an intellectually honest conversation about gun control with someone that believes a garden trowel is just as deadly as a gun?
Intellectually honest conversation?
Here?
Bhaahahahahahaha
Posted on 11/5/17 at 4:56 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
One is inherently easier to kill people with, especially multiple people in a short amount of time. If you equate, in any way, the two in a conversation regarding gun control, you aren't having an intellectually honest conversation.
This post was edited on 11/5/17 at 4:57 pm
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