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Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:27 pm to Sailin Tiger
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4. Put forth a new law outlawing all automatic weapons (once again already exists despite the narrative)
I haven't read all the responses so this may have been asked.
Do you have any idea what an automatic weapon is? And tells us how many automatic weapons have been used in a crime in the last 30yrs.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:28 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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So don't get your feelings hurt when someone reads the words you type and points out all the problems with them.
I'm just amused that you are literally arguing with someone that likely agrees with you on most of what we are discussing here because the semantics aren't on the level of a paper I would have turned in in college. I didn't ask you to be a mind reader by the way as you could have asked simply "What did you mean in point bullet 3?" and give me a chance to answer to verify what I was discussing. My whole quote was as follows
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3. Put forth the "compromise" that any gun purchased must be preceded by a background check and purchased from a physical location. Include stores and gun shows and require all gun shows to have a private owner transfer booth (Once again keep in mind that the gun show loophole is a myth anyways.)
While obviously could have been worded better as the second sentence shows my thinking was geared toward stores and gun shows as when speaking on "purchases" I wasn't including transactions between family and frineds in my line of thought, and frankly I would never sell to someone I didn't know without a dealer involved in the unlikely event I wanted to sell one of my personal fireamrs.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:29 pm to bbvdd
quote:Allow me.
Do you have any idea what an automatic weapon is? And tells us how many automatic weapons have been used in a crime in the last 30yrs.
OP typed a bunch of words out, but these words didn't accurately reflect the message that was trying to be conveyed.
It is then your fault for taking OP's words at face value as opposed to being able to brush away the typed message to understand what he was really trying to say.
At least that's been my experience in this thread.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:31 pm to lsufan31
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The problem with that, is republicans don’t actually want voter reform, they want voter suppression.
The problem with that, is democrats don't actually want voter reform, they want illegitimate vote/rs.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:31 pm to Sailin Tiger
quote:Alternatively, you could have actually typed a clear post, not one littered with double-meanings and codes and implied messages.
I'm just amused that you are literally arguing with someone that likely agrees with you on most of what we are discussing here because the semantics aren't on the level of a paper I would have turned in in college. I didn't ask you to be a mind reader by the way as you could have asked simply "What did you mean in point bullet 3?" and give me a chance to answer to verify what I was discussing. My whole quote was as follows
quote:That's a whole lot of words when you could have just said "yeah, I fricked up and didn't really type what I meant to say."
While obviously could have been worded better as the second sentence shows my thinking was geared toward stores and gun shows as when speaking on "purchases" I wasn't including transactions between family and frineds in my line of thought, and frankly I would never sell to someone I didn't know without a dealer involved in the unlikely event I wanted to sell one of my personal fireamrs.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:32 pm to Sailin Tiger
No compromises on explicit Constitutional rights ever.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:36 pm to bbvdd
Yes, a fully automatic weapon is one that which will continue firing while the trigger is pulled. These are already highly restricted items and what I was suggesting is to put forth the current law as a "compromise" as this is already in place even though the average leftist thinks you can go to walmart and buy one. The whole original line of thinking I had was to use the narrative that the world of guns is the wild fricking west to get less restrictive laws while presenting laws that already exist as compromise. Dem politicians would then have to either acknowledge that these laws already exist and admit that they are trying to take more rights that they dont say aloud to their consituents when pushingthe narrative or concede some of the restrictions that already exist.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:37 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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That's a whole lot of words when you could have just said "yeah, I fricked up and didn't really type what I meant to say."
I just said
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While obviously could have been worded
So once again you would prefer to argue over semantics vs actual thinking.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:37 pm to Sailin Tiger
My compromise:
Eliminate gun-free zones. Jackasses that want to shoot up a place better be prepared to die on the spot.
Eliminate gun-free zones. Jackasses that want to shoot up a place better be prepared to die on the spot.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:40 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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That's a whole lot of words when you could have just said "yeah, I fricked up and didn't really type what I meant to say."
I interpreted exactly what he was saying...maybe you're the one that is playing games and mental gymnastics like the left...just sayin.
reminds me of someone getting pissed on TR about a poster using the term TailBack instead of Running back or Half back
FFS He's clarified his OP...even though he didn't need to yet, here you are...still complaining that he didn't type what he really meant.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:41 pm to Sailin Tiger
quote:I can only go with what I can read. A lot of context gets lost when things are communicated in written form only, and even more when a person does a shite job delivering their intended message.
So once again you would prefer to argue over semantics vs actual thinking.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:41 pm to Sailin Tiger
Don’t give an inch
/thread
/thread
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:44 pm to bstew3006
quote:His message is still shite.
I interpreted exactly what he was saying...maybe you're the one that is playing games and mental gymnastics like the left...just sayin.
reminds me of someone getting pissed on TR about a poster using the term TailBack instead of Running back or Half back FFS
He's clarified his OP...even though he didn't need to yet, here you are...still complaining that he didn't type what he really meant.
Why is compromise, lip service or not, a counteroffer to what is a God-given right?
The message is, in my opinion, no compromise. The BoR was not given to us by men, but by the creator. Therefore, it is not within man's purview to take it away, alter it, etc.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:45 pm to Abraham H Parnassis
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It is then your fault for taking OP's words at face value as opposed to being able to brush away the typed message to understand what he was really trying to say.
At least that's been my experience in this thread.
I admitted it could have been worded better, while also noting that this is a message/discussion board so I didn't expect to have to convey my entire opinion in the same way I do an actual essay. Also never once said it was your fault Mrs. Sensitive. If you go through the thread the thing you should note is that most of the people apparently are here to enjoy straw man arguments vs discussion.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:46 pm to Sailin Tiger
I had a serious reply to your post but as I was checking it for mistakes I changed my mind and just want to say “shall not be infringed”
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:47 pm to Sailin Tiger
How about enforcing the existing laws.
Let the bad guys off and take away Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. Yeah, frick all that.
Let the bad guys off and take away Constitutional rights of law abiding citizens. Yeah, frick all that.
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:50 pm to Sailin Tiger
quote:But your argument is shite.
I admitted it could have been worded better, while also noting that this is a message/discussion board so I didn't expect to have to convey my entire opinion in the same way I do an actual essay. Also never once said it was your fault Mrs. Sensitive. If you go through the thread the thing you should note is that most of the people apparently are here to enjoy straw man arguments vs discussion.
The BoR was not given to us by man. It was graciously bestowed upon us by The Creator. It isn't yours or mine or anyone's to "compromise."
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:51 pm to Sailin Tiger
I think your compromise is ridiculous but many here think the amendment is pretty broad when it's not. I suspect it will be refined even more as it relates to automatic military type weapons.
"In its decision, authored by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court was careful to stress the limited nature of its ruling. Writing for the majority, Justice Scalia noted: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
"In its decision, authored by Justice Antonin Scalia, the Supreme Court was careful to stress the limited nature of its ruling. Writing for the majority, Justice Scalia noted: “Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. [It is] not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.”
Posted on 3/23/21 at 2:54 pm to Sailin Tiger
"Shall not be infringed"
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